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    Re: Somali pirates seize ship; 21 Americans aboard

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Whine and bloviate? I agreed with you that it's up to Obama to clean up this mess or we risk losing credibility. You're the one who pissed his pants because I said the word "Bush."

    So what was your point in bringing up bush? Let me know where you decide to plant the goal posts ok?



    Goddamn, you're so eager to user the word "fail" like a thirteen year old commenting on a youtube video that you can't even read the previous paragraph. Here, I'll recap for you because I know that two posts ago is just so long ago for you.

    I said,

    "And now that an American ship has finally been attacked it's on Obama's watch and he's got to deal with it."

    So, uh, yeah....fail.

    And again, since you're so quick to jump down Obama's throat for the piracy, then surely you can show me some threads you started last year when the stories first broke, declaring that if Bush doesn't do something about it then the situation could escalate to where it could affect us directly. Right? I mean, you wouldn't want to look like a partisan hack or anything.


    talk about a "partisan hack"! What does Bush have to do with any of this then? There has never been an american ship hijacked before. If there was, I'd "jump down his throat", just as I did when Bush did the 1st bailouts.
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    Re: Somali pirates seize ship; 21 Americans aboard

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    So now, what will the response be. I personally am concerned that Obama will not respond with a firm hand and this will open up more attacks on American ships.

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    I think you will see a marked difference between the way George Bush handled pirates and the response of the Obama administration. Bush never had a "firm hand", he was playing at soldiers with real people. I have no doubt Obama will demonstrate the cost of seizing Americans on the high seas. The answer is simple, historic, and can be expressed in one word.

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    Re: Somali pirates seize ship; 21 Americans aboard

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    I think you will see a marked difference between the way George Bush handled pirates and the response of the Obama administration. Bush never had a "firm hand", he was playing at soldiers with real people. I have no doubt Obama will demonstrate the cost of seizing Americans on the high seas. The answer is simple, historic, and can be expressed in one word.

    Marines.


    Want to take a wager on that?
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    Re: Somali pirates seize ship; 21 Americans aboard

    Why is Obama supposed to respond to this? Two things will happen. Maersk will pay the ransom or they'll be released after a few days. 'We' won't pay anything. This is the responsibility of the company who sent them there.
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    Re: Somali pirates seize ship; 21 Americans aboard

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Why is Obama supposed to respond to this? Two things will happen. Maersk will pay the ransom or they'll be released after a few days. 'We' won't pay anything. This is the responsibility of the company who sent them there.



    there is a reason ships fly a countries flag. You know that right?
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    Re: Somali pirates seize ship; 21 Americans aboard

    Obama will do as much for the 21 Americans as hes doing for the captured journalists in Iran and North Korea. Nothing.

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    Re: Somali pirates seize ship; 21 Americans aboard

    Quote Originally Posted by Stryker View Post
    Obama will do as much for the 21 Americans as hes doing for the captured journalists in Iran and North Korea. Nothing.
    I think you're wrong, but we'll know very soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    So what was your point in bringing up bush? Let me know where you decide to plant the goal posts ok?
    Oh my god, you're still crapping your pants about this? So Bush was president when the Somali piracy stories started to break and he didn't tackle the problem. Is that actually disputable? If you weren't a partisan hack, you'd just shrug and say, "yeah, that's true, but we've got to deal with this in the here and now." Instead I say "Bush" once and you instantly lose all control of your bodily functions. Get a grip!

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    talk about a "partisan hack"! What does Bush have to do with any of this then? There has never been an american ship hijacked before. If there was, I'd "jump down his throat", just as I did when Bush did the 1st bailouts.
    So you don't see how increasing piracy in one of the world's busiest shipping lanes where our own interests are at stake might have been of some concern?

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    Re: Somali pirates seize ship; 21 Americans aboard

    Here's the latest:


    Cmdr. Jane Campbell, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Navy's Bahrain-based 5th Fleet, said that it was the first pirate attack "involving U.S. nationals and a U.S.-flagged vessel in recent memory." She did not give an exact timeframe.
    When asked how the U.S. Navy plans to deal with the hijacking, Campbell said: "It's fair to say we are closely monitoring the situation, but we will not discuss nor speculate on current and future military operations."
    It was not clear whether the pirates knew they were hijacking a ship with American crew.
    "It's a very significant foreign policy challenge for the Obama administration," said Graeme Gibbon Brooks, managing director of the British company Dryad Maritime Intelligence Service Ltd. "Their citizens are in the hands of criminals and people are waiting to see what happens."
    Brooks and other analysts interviewed by the AP declined to speculate on whether American military forces might attempt a rescue operation. A senior Navy official in Washington said the Obama administration was talking to the shipping company to learn "the who, what, why, where and when" of the hijacking.

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    Re: Somali pirates seize ship; 21 Americans aboard

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Oh my god, you're still crapping your pants about this? So Bush was president when the Somali piracy stories started to break and he didn't tackle the problem.
    No American ship, not our problem. American ship. Our problem.

    Any questions?

    Is that actually disputable? If you weren't a partisan hack, you'd just shrug and say, "yeah, that's true, but we've got to deal with this in the here and now." Instead I say "Bush" once and you instantly lose all control of your bodily functions. Get a grip!
    3rd request. What was your point in bringing up Bush.


    What did you mean by "Another problem handed on from Bush"


    So you don't see how increasing piracy in one of the world's busiest shipping lanes where our own interests are at stake might have been of some concern?


    Nope. I see it more as a problem for europe, east aisia, and africa to handle. Until you touch our ships.
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