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Vermont legalizes gay marriage with veto override

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So now Vermont has legalized same-sex marriage by way of the legislator. It could be argued that Massachusetts was the first to do this because they voted against a bill defining marriage as between one man and one woman, but that was after a court ruling allowing same-sex marriage. This is the first time I am aware of that the actual issue of same-sex marriage has been addressed in a legislative way and approved.

For all of the debaters who said the court system was the wrong way to this, now it is done the way you wanted it.

Are you fine with it?

Vermont legalizes gay marriage with veto override
 
So now Vermont has legalized same-sex marriage by way of the legislator. It could be argued that Massachusetts was the first to do this because they voted against a bill defining marriage as between one man and one woman, but that was after a court ruling allowing same-sex marriage. This is the first time I am aware of that the actual issue of same-sex marriage has been addressed in a legislative way and approved.

For all of the debaters who said the court system was the wrong way to this, now it is done the way you wanted it.

Are you fine with it?

Vermont legalizes gay marriage with veto override


Of course they aren't, this paves the way for no less than the following:

  • Polygamy will be here to stay.
  • Marrying farm animals, or other animals will happen. GUARANTEED.
  • What about guy friends who get married just for the benefits?
  • God disapproves of it.

;)
 
Although I don't agree with this decision at least the decision was made by the right branch of government not some activist judges that approved gay marriage in Iowa, Mass., and California................I just hope the good people of Iowa get a chance to weigh in on the issue......I think you will see a lot of the local politicians out of jobs and the decision overturned...........
 
So now Vermont has legalized same-sex marriage by way of the legislator. It could be argued that Massachusetts was the first to do this because they voted against a bill defining marriage as between one man and one woman, but that was after a court ruling allowing same-sex marriage. This is the first time I am aware of that the actual issue of same-sex marriage has been addressed in a legislative way and approved.

For all of the debaters who said the court system was the wrong way to this, now it is done the way you wanted it.

Are you fine with it?

Vermont legalizes gay marriage with veto override


No. In California, the legislature, not only once, but twice passed gay marriage legislation, only to have it vetoed by our Republican Governor (who incidentally said the issue should be decided by the California Supreme Court).
 
Although I don't agree with this decision at least the decision was made by the right branch of government not some activist judges that approved gay marriage in Iowa, Mass., and California................I just hope the good people of Iowa get a chance to weigh in on the issue......I think you will see a lot of the local politicians out of jobs and the decision overturned...........

I am not so sure the people of Vermont will overturn it. Reading the article, it said that the legislator did not have the votes to override the veto at first. A phone campaign was established and people must have called their representatives to express their approval of the law. That caused 5 more representatives to vote in favor of it, and that allowed the veto override.

Looks like there was some very serious support for the legislation by the citizens of Vermont.
 
No. In California, the legislature, not only once, but twice passed gay marriage legislation, only to have it vetoed by our Republican Governor (who incidentally said the issue should be decided by the California Supreme Court).

A governor's veto is part of the legislative process, along with the override. What happened here is the entire legislative process approving same-sex marriage. As far as I know, that is a first.
 
A governor's veto is part of the legislative process, along with the override. What happened here is the entire legislative process approving same-sex marriage. As far as I know, that is a first.

I think you are right about that.
 
I am not so sure the people of Vermont will overturn it. Reading the article, it said that the legislator did not have the votes to override the veto at first. A phone campaign was established and people must have called their representatives to express their approval of the law. That caused 5 more representatives to vote in favor of it, and that allowed the veto override.

Looks like there was some very serious support for the legislation by the citizens of Vermont.

I still wish the people had a chance to vote on the issue in Vermont although you may be right................I was actually talking about Iowa where activist judges made the ruling and not the will of the people.........
 
No. In California, the legislature, not only once, but twice passed gay marriage legislation, only to have it vetoed by our Republican Governor (who incidentally said the issue should be decided by the California Supreme Court).


And the good people of California over ruled them......What part of that do you not understand???? Give it up..........its a dead issue there...........you lost......
 
The tide is beginning to turn. More and more states are starting to realize that denying basic rights to some means NO one is free.
 
A governor's veto is part of the legislative process, along with the override. What happened here is the entire legislative process approving same-sex marriage. As far as I know, that is a first.


Yes that is true buth the most important process is the will of the people of the state and they shot down gay marriage big time by changing the constitution...........
 
Yes that is true buth the most important process is the will of the people of the state and they shot down gay marriage big time by changing the constitution...........

I think you are addressing California here, where I do not believe it was shot down big time. 52% voted "Yes" to Proposition 8, 48% voted "No." Proposition 22 (the previous proposition on the same issue) passed with 61% of the vote.

Seems like the tide may be turning.
 
I think you are addressing California here, where I do not believe it was shot down big time. 52% voted "Yes" to Proposition 8, 48% voted "No." Proposition 22 (the previous proposition on the same issue) passed with 61% of the vote.

Seems like the tide may be turning.


Yes it was California and did you know that more and more states are adopting changes to their constitution to define marriage as a union between a man and a woman.......I believe its over 30 states now..............
 
Out of curiosity, are there any gay marriage cases on their way to the USSC?
 
And the good people of California over ruled them......What part of that do you not understand???? Give it up..........its a dead issue there...........you lost......

Constitutional rights should never be put to a popular vote. That is the issue the California Supreme Court is looking at right now.
Do you believe that all Constitutional Rights should be subject to a 50% +1 popular vote?
 
Yes it was California and did you know that more and more states are adopting changes to their constitution to define marriage as a union between a man and a woman.......I believe its over 30 states now..............

State referendums mean absolutely nothing if the Supreme Court decides they violate Equal Protection. This is the reason why your Hero, GWB, was pushing for a Constititional Amendment.
 
I think the SCOTUS would like the states to settle this issue themselves.....

That seems kind of odd to me. Of the hot-button topics in America today, that seems like an obvious one to take up. Either rule that gay marriage bans are unconstitutional or officially declare that it's up to the states. What are they waiting for?
 
That seems kind of odd to me. Of the hot-button topics in America today, that seems like an obvious one to take up. Either rule that gay marriage bans are unconstitutional or officially declare that it's up to the states. What are they waiting for?

The Supreme Court cannot make up a case. It has to wait until the issue is brought before it.
 
So now Vermont has legalized same-sex marriage by way of the legislator. It could be argued that Massachusetts was the first to do this because they voted against a bill defining marriage as between one man and one woman, but that was after a court ruling allowing same-sex marriage. This is the first time I am aware of that the actual issue of same-sex marriage has been addressed in a legislative way and approved.

For all of the debaters who said the court system was the wrong way to this, now it is done the way you wanted it.

Are you fine with it?

Vermont legalizes gay marriage with veto override

Not until each respective state sets all such rulings aside and deals with gay marriage through the legislature, no.

Respect to Vermont for following Due Process, though :2wave:
 
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Constitutional rights should never be put to a popular vote. That is the issue the California Supreme Court is looking at right now.
Do you believe that all Constitutional Rights should be subject to a 50% +1 popular vote?

I don't believe activist partisan judges be they democrats or republicans should over rule the will of the people............You state got it right by changing the constitution............If you want to change it start another referendun......That is the way we do it in this country.....The will of the people...........
 
The Supreme Court cannot make up a case. It has to wait until the issue is brought before it.

I understand that, but surely some case are on their way to the Supreme Court?

I found this article on a quick google search, and it vaguely insinuates that such cases have reached the SCOTUS, but that the court refused to take it.

* The U.S. Supreme Court has not taken a case on gay marriage, leaving states to decide the issue.

FACTBOX: U.S. laws on gay marriage, civil unions | U.S. | Reuters
 
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