If gays were merely given something heteros already had, then why did heteros gain something with this ruling?
The only way this could have been a civil right issue is if there were nearly as many heteros fighting to marry someone of the same gender as gays.
Look at Loving. You have whites and blacks fighting for it. Not so with gay marriage. It's the equivalent to only blacks fighting to marry whites, but no whites fighting to marry blacks.
Gay marriage is not a civil rights issue.
Last edited by Jerry; 04-07-09 at 04:30 PM.
To prove my point: Everyone in Virginia are all still bound to every restriction that everyone else in Virginia is. It's still equal. It hasn't become equal, it's still equal, that hasn't changed.
Therefore gay marriage is not a civil rights issue.
Last edited by Jerry; 04-07-09 at 04:24 PM.
In fact, it goes well deeper than civil rights and talks to innate an inalienable rights. Marriage is a State contract, it comes with automatic benefits and powers which are beneficial for married people. Hospital visitation, property issues, tax issues, etc. There are many reasons why people wish to engage in the contract of marriage. But you are infringing upon the innate and inalienable right to contract by denying two same sex couples from forging this State recognized, legal contract whereas you will allow two opposite sex couples to engage in this State recognized, legal contract no questions asked. You either destroy the marriage license, or you allow same sex couples equal access to it. Those are the only two rightful solutions.
You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo
Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
There are MANY straights fighting for the rights of gays to marry. I am one of them. It is a civil rights issue.If blacks were merely given something whites already had, then why did whites gain something with this ruling?
The only way this could have been a civil right issue is if there were nearly as many whites fighting to marry someone of the same race as blacks.
We all win when justice prevails for everyone.
Maybe I need to be a bit more visual...
Both heteros and gays gained the ability to marry someone of the same gender. Gays did not get anything that heteros already had, and heteros did not stay the same while gay's rights increased. They each got the same right, the same wait was placed on each side.
If marriage rights were unbalanced/unequal before...
...then since each side got the same wait added, marriage rights are still unequal now.
However, if marriage rights are equal now...
..then since each side was missing the same amount of wait before, marriage rights were equal then, too.
Before AND after, the scales look the same, therefore gay-marriage is not a civil right issue.
Do I need to expand further? When women got the right to vote, men got nothing. Something was added only to one side of the scale….
Last edited by Jerry; 04-07-09 at 04:54 PM.