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    Sweeney to cops: 'I'm in... trouble'

    Former New York Congressman John Sweeney has just been busted for another DWI, less than 2 years after the first one that caused him to lose his seat in Congress. Because of the prior conviction, this DWI is a felony.

    Now here is the kicker. Guess what position John Sweeney once held? How about the STOP-DWI coordinator of Rensselaer County in New York?

    Sometimes, when circumstances arise that expose a creep like Sweeney as the hypocrite he is, you have to think that yes, there IS a God.

    However, I would like to see a discussion on whether you believe that the DWI laws are too harsh or whether those laws are not harsh enough.

    What do you think?

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    Re: Sweeney to cops: 'I'm in... trouble'

    What....what are you talking about Dan. There's no hypocrisy in our government. Why each and every one of our congressmen is an upstanding role model, a perfect citizen by which we should also strive to be. They don't do drugs, or drink and drive...or drink and drive and kill someone and get away with it, or pick up dudes in bathrooms or anything. Model citizens and you should feel bad insinuating that there's hypocrisy and shady dealing going down in the government. They're here to protect you Dan, it's time to let them in.

    On a serious note, DUI laws are well too harsh and obviously set up only to extrude as much money as possible from the individual. I think DUI is mostly looked at by the State and police as a fundraiser, and that's how it's used. They found something easily demonized and used it to expand the punishment and fines till its at a point where they can make good money. Then they launch into serious DUI type unconstitutional action like check points and such so they can catch more and make more money. While drunk driving is a problem, and leads to about half the crashes (though I do imagine they count any alcohol in those states, even like .01), the government has gone well beyond policing it in a rational manner. Fact is most drunk drivers make it home, many in fact show no outward appearance of being intoxicated. If you're swerving it's one thing, but if the cop is pulling you over because it's 2 AM and they're just pulling people over; that's a whole different ball game. There's proper punishment for DUI, where it's at now is not it.
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    Re: Sweeney to cops: 'I'm in... trouble'

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Former New York Congressman John Sweeney has just been busted for another DWI, less than 2 years after the first one that caused him to lose his seat in Congress. Because of the prior conviction, this DWI is a felony.

    Now here is the kicker. Guess what position John Sweeney once held? How about the STOP-DWI coordinator of Rensselaer County in New York?

    Sometimes, when circumstances arise that expose a creep like Sweeney as the hypocrite he is, you have to think that yes, there IS a God.

    However, I would like to see a discussion on whether you believe that the DWI laws are too harsh or whether those laws are not harsh enough.

    What do you think?

    Article is here.
    I don't think the DWI laws are too harsh. He pled guilty to this crime before and lost his license for 3 months and had to pay a fine, but then 17 months later, he clearly didn't learn his lesson--hence, why I think the harsher charge is appropriate. It should be a deterrent.

    It's not clear whether he would have avoided losing his licence had he undergone the testing. What would happen if he underwent the testing and it showed he was 4 times over the legal limit? Would he lose his license then?

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    Re: Sweeney to cops: 'I'm in... trouble'

    The DWI arrest makes Sweeney stupid, most likely an alcoholic (or at least a problem drinker, for those who want to play that semantics game), but it does not make him a hypocrite.

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    Re: Sweeney to cops: 'I'm in... trouble'

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    The DWI arrest makes Sweeney stupid, most likely an alcoholic (or at least a problem drinker, for those who want to play that semantics game), but it does not make him a hypocrite.
    It doesn't? After all, he was, at one time, coordinating DWI arrest efforts.
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    Re: Sweeney to cops: 'I'm in... trouble'

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    The DWI arrest makes Sweeney stupid, most likely an alcoholic (or at least a problem drinker, for those who want to play that semantics game), but it does not make him a hypocrite.
    It does if he was on a tax payer funded alliance to help stop drunk driving. It's kind of like people who drink a lot and then crack on pot smokers.
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    Re: Sweeney to cops: 'I'm in... trouble'

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    It doesn't? After all, he was, at one time, coordinating DWI arrest efforts.
    Non-sequitur, unless he asserting that it should be permissible for him to drive while intoxicate yet deny that capacity to others.

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    Re: Sweeney to cops: 'I'm in... trouble'

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    It does if he was on a tax payer funded alliance to help stop drunk driving. It's kind of like people who drink a lot and then crack on pot smokers.
    It's nothing of the kind.

    Again, show me where he is defending and advocating for the right to drive intoxicated.

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    Re: Sweeney to cops: 'I'm in... trouble'

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Non-sequitur, unless he asserting that it should be permissible for him to drive while intoxicate yet deny that capacity to others.
    Actually, he WAS working to deny that capacity to others, and he was drinking and driving himself. He sends a strong message to do what I say, not what I do. That makes him a prime candidate for hypocrite.
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