SkyCore
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"We" is relative. I could gather 3 or 4 of my friends and boldly state that "We" like beer. And I would be telling the truth (even though we prefer Jack and Coke.)
Now, maybe President Obama, in his circle of friends may speak truthfully when he says that "We" do not consider ourselves a christian nation.
Except that isn't what Obama said. This is what he said:
President Obama told reporters in Turkey that America is not defined by any one religion. "I've said before that one of the great strengths of the United States is, although as I mentioned we have a very large Christian population, we do not consider ourselves a Christian nation or a Jewish nation or a Muslim nation. We consider ourselves a nation of citizens who are bound by ideals and a set of values," said the president.
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Obama_to_Turkey_We_are_not_0406.html
Hell, he even explicitly acknowledged many Americans identify as Christian and that still isn't good enough? How is it in this technological age with tens of millions of sources available and an information highway open 24/7/365.25 that even a simple quote gets diced like scallions? (Nothing personal against CC.)
I've notice a LOT of posts that have misquoted Obama and the worst part is someone already corrected the OP on the first page! What the hell people?
But he isn't speaking for my "we." The people I know, in my US of A, most certainly, by a landslide, consider us to be, in fact, a christian nation.
That speaks volumns about the people in my world and also about the people in Obama's.
Slave owners who raped their slaves considered themselves Christians too. So much for self-identification.
Sure, you got your freedom of religion. And long may she live. But, with numbers too big to ignore, this is a christian nation.
But don't shoot me. I ain't even religious. I'm just calling it like I see it. We can *****-foot around it and re-phrase it to sound more politically correct if it would make anyone feel better. I dont mind.
But it is what it is and I ain't one to believe it's raining outside when I can clearly see that someone is peeing on my head.
Maybe I need to get out more. I dunno.
We are not a Christian nation by government, action, or in any Christian principle worth living by that iam aware of. If anything, by government, action, and lack of principles we are arguably one of the most anti-Christian nations on earth. (I'm not the *****-footing around kind of person.)
I make that proclamation because by numbers we claim to be "Christian" and love to throw that fish symbol around and even throw some money in a plate on some Sunday mornings (when there isn't a big game on.) But we practice almost the opposite of everything Christ taught.
Let's take the hypocrisy one step further. What would happen if Muslims demanded the Federal government recognize one of their religious celebrations as a Nationally paid Holiday vacation? How many morons would be screaming that's proof Muslims are trying to take over the world? Yet there's no problem with the government taking tax dollars and using that to underwrite Christian holidays?