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    Re: "We do not consider ourselves a christian nation", says Obama

    he is merely emphasising the seperation of state and religion as a point of simmilarity with Turkey, and underscoring his aproval of this seperation.
    There is nothing objectionable in his words.

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    Re: "We do not consider ourselves a christian nation", says Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by theTANTALIZER View Post
    I do believe that Islam has shaped Obama.

    That is why he said Islam Has Shaped the U.S.A. He says...“We will convey,” said Barack Obama to the Turkish Parliament Monday, “our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over the centuries to shape the world — including in my own country.”...

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...D-268E2A39A205
    I think he was referring to the muslim golden age and how progression in the sciences and art during that period have contributed to the world.
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    Re: "We do not consider ourselves a christian nation", says Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Thinkforyourself View Post
    Well by the same logic then we are also a white nation, a poor nation, and swiftly becoming aan obese nation.... just curious should we be touting ourselves as such? As long as were talking about demographics.
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    America is far and wide the most prosperous nation.
    Let's say it was first place, there is no second, and those in third place are a weak third.

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    Re: "We do not consider ourselves a christian nation", says Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Still waiting to see what makes it specifically "christian" as opposed to Jewish.
    It grew from a foundation of Christian people, our documents were crafted by Christians, and though our government is not Christian, it is largely a Christian land... hence making Obama's statements dead wrong.

    It was a dumb thing for him to say; but he's adept at saying dumb things at the wrong time.

    Bush may have bumbled with words, Obama bumbles content... with regularity.

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    Re: "We do not consider ourselves a christian nation", says Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Like you would know anything about it. Damn woman, you're not American and you want to change the country you're in. You're the last person around here to lecture us on a set of principles.
    So, shall we assume you will no longer be commenting on the policies or positions of any country in the world other than the US? I suppose I will now have to watch all of your posts.
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    Re: "We do not consider ourselves a christian nation", says Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by BulletWounD View Post
    We may live under a secular state, but we are a Christian nation.
    No. We live in a secular nation that is based on Judeo-Christian principles and a nation of Christians...and Jews, and Muslims, etc...
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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
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    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: "We do not consider ourselves a christian nation", says Obama

    Obama is not only weak, but he made a stupid statement here:

    "We do not consider ourselves a christian nation"

    He could have easily stated that we are a diverse nation, one in which we, the people, are protected to freely choose our own religious denomination.

    His statement certainly doesn't represent me, or my thoughts on the subject.
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    Re: "We do not consider ourselves a christian nation", says Obama

    What Obama said is accurate. That is all.

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    Re: "We do not consider ourselves a christian nation", says Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    No. We live in a secular nation that is based on Judeo-Christian principles and a nation of Christians...and Jews, and Muslims, etc...

    That's self contradicting. Any nation based on principles of religion is a Theocracy. Also, what are the Judeo-Christian principles being claimed?

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    Re: "We do not consider ourselves a christian nation", says Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHurt View Post
    Obama is not only weak, but he made a stupid statement here:

    "We do not consider ourselves a christian nation"

    He could have easily stated that we are a diverse nation, one in which we, the people, are protected to freely choose our own religious denomination.

    His statement certainly doesn't represent me, or my thoughts on the subject.

    Where is the source/link for that specific quote?

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