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    Re: "We do not consider ourselves a christian nation", says Obama

    If some of you are going to push this new age moronic BS that the Founding Fathers did not base their decisions and thus the foundations of this society in Judeo-Christian belief then make the Founding Fathers Aliens!...and the US based on Satanism.

    The line is so ignorance based and so lacking of either common sense or historical backing that its pathetic that some of you buy into it. Whats worse though is the "teachers" who peddle this inane BS.

    The entire routine is simply a construct anyway. Simply part of the overall "lets bash Christians because we're chickens" garbage.
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    Re: "We do not consider ourselves a christian nation", says Obama

    Regardless of whether America is or is not a "Christian nation," a lot of people do consider America a "Christian nation" with principles fully in line with Christianity. Obama would have done much better if he had said "I do not consider the U.S. a Christian nation." He cannot speak for all the members of the government, let alone all the people of America.

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    Re: "We do not consider ourselves a christian nation", says Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Triad View Post
    If some of you are going to push this new age moronic BS that the Founding Fathers did not base their decisions and thus the foundations of this society in Judeo-Christian belief then make the Founding Fathers Aliens!...and the US based on Satanism.

    The line is so ignorance based and so lacking of either common sense or historical backing that its pathetic that some of you buy into it. Whats worse though is the "teachers" who peddle this inane BS.
    Satanism, as a belief system, is not widely accepted in the US; however it is widely practiced.

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    Re: "We do not consider ourselves a christian nation", says Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Triad View Post
    If some of you are going to push this new age moronic BS that the Founding Fathers did not base their decisions and thus the foundations of this society in Judeo-Christian belief then make the Founding Fathers Aliens!...and the US based on Satanism.

    The line is so ignorance based and so lacking of either common sense or historical backing that its pathetic that some of you buy into it. Whats worse though is the "teachers" who peddle this inane BS.
    Bravo. Seems like someone just received their Far-Right Evangelist talking points.

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    Re: "We do not consider ourselves a christian nation", says Obama

    I'm not even religious.

    IGNORANCE







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    Satanism, as a belief system, is not widely accepted in the US; however it is widely practiced.
    Who cares.

    The point is for them to make the claim dumber and more exciting.

    If they are going to be stupid and claim such ridiculous things then make it flashy!
    Aliens who worship Lucifer founding the USA!..imagine the mini-series potential.
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    Re: "We do not consider ourselves a christian nation", says Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    So, if the people who happened to build my computer in the factory just happened to be christians, my computer is a CHRISTIAN computer?
    If the process of building the computer and the decisions on how to design it were shaped by their religious beliefs, then yea, I'd say you could call it a "Christian computer."
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    Re: "We do not consider ourselves a christian nation", says Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Perhaps I do not understand what you are saying.

    Of a certainty I do not like what you are saying--too much the sounds of anger and of hate.
    When you say that you don't understand what I am saying but of a certainty you don't like what I am saying you are exactly expressing senseless anger and blind hatred.

    You do understand what I am saying, and you hate me for being coherent and correct and for destroying your blind beliefs. It must hurt, but it is not my goal, my goal is to be coherent and correct; if it hurts try to change or just run. Also atheists counter the pain by posting juvenile utterances here is an example http://www.debatepolitics.com/religi...-morality.html
    and here - you can learn how to do such things from this guy http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1057984297
    gogle for a cartoon...
    I don't know how else I can easy your pain.

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    Re: "We do not consider ourselves a christian nation", says Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by justone View Post
    my goal is to be coherent and correct
    A worthy goal. I hope you achieve it some day.

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    Re: "We do not consider ourselves a christian nation", says Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by justone View Post
    Picking a source – like dictionary, - which has to be void of historical details and perspective, because it is not the task of a dictionary to provide historical details or perspective clearly demonstrates your intellectual dishonesty.
    The etymology of a word is the history of that word. It is the evolution of that word.

    Quote Originally Posted by justone View Post
    But please – pay attention to the bolded red. From Latin. The church teachings were written in Latin, then each language has translated them.
    The Torah was written in Ancient Hebrew. The New Testament was written first in Greek then translated to Latin--which language, by the way, predates the birth of Jesus of Nazareth by at least 500 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by justone View Post
    Secular is Svetsky in Russian (translated from both Greek and Latin in the same way) , Anglo-French seculer Welsh hoedl - it is in the same way referring to activities outside the Church, activities which are not regulated by the Bible, are not belonging to the affairs of the Church, which are not spiritual, which are worldly.
    Secular distinguishes temporal from ecclesiastical. It is not intrinsic to any church, any creed, nor any system of belief. Religious authorities are ecclesiastical, political authorities are secular--regardless of the religion.

    Quote Originally Posted by justone View Post
    4. Paul did not ever mentioned organization of a state or government
    Paul did address government. Romans 13:1-7. As for Christian prayers while driving....seems fitting when confronted by Houston drivers.

    Quote Originally Posted by justone View Post
    Using the Sermon to insult an opponent in a debate is quite a perversion, the same perversion as when you find yourself meek while addressing me with ‘’impiety of your intolerance and narrowmindness’’; there is no meekness is in your words, but a demonstration of a reality comprehension problem. If you wish to be blessed as a meek you don’t start from throwing insults or what you think are insults. I am intolerant, JC was intolerant, too; it is not like he said ‘’blessed be the murderers, thieves and child molesters’’.
    I am not meek. I am also not a Christian. I am, however, in most regards, a tolerant man, and will countenance a great many things. I do not countenance hatred; your words reek of hatred. I reject your words; I oppose them, and I oppose you. That is the order of things.

    Quote Originally Posted by justone View Post
    Your misrepresentation of the Sermon is another demonstration of your reading comprehension problem, - The message of the Sermon is: REJOICE. Read. And Rejoice.
    My message: Hatred is wrong; you are wrong. Set aside your hatred, then we may all rejoice.

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    Re: "We do not consider ourselves a christian nation", says Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    If the process of building the computer and the decisions on how to design it were shaped by their religious beliefs, then yea, I'd say you could call it a "Christian computer."
    The concept of binary calculations used in writing software (when absence of software makes a computer to be a piece of junk metal and plastic), was developed by a Christian creationists scientist and mathematician Leibniz. Actually he was not a scientist and mathematician ( one of most fundamental ones) but he was a Christian theologian; scientific and mathematical achievements (one of the greatest) were byproducts of his thoughts about God. Atheists shouldn’t use computers.
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