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    RIP Right to Privacy; ISP firms now store our net information.

    Details of user e-mails, website visits and net phone calls will be stored by internet service providers (ISPs) from Monday under an EU directive.

    The plans were drawn up in the wake of the London bombings in 2005.

    ISPs and telecoms firms have resisted the proposals while some countries in the EU are contesting the directive.

    Jim Killock, executive director of the Open Rights Group, said it was a "crazy directive" with potentially dangerous repercussions for citizens.

    All ISPs in the European Union will have to store the records for a year. An EU directive which requires telecoms firms to hold on to telephone records for 12 months is already in force.

    The data stored does not include the content of e-mails and websites, nor a recording of a net phone call, but is used to determine connections between individuals.

    Authorities can get access to the stored records with a warrant.

    Governments across the EU have now started to implement the directive into their own national legislation.
    Okay im pretty disgusted. I'll be off to Saudi Arabia now where i could probably find more rights to privacy then i could here. This is barbaric, an absolute breach of privacy. Who have access to them? Who will see them, who has the authority and what will they do with my private information?
    What i do on the internet in the privacy of my own home should STAY with me. If police where so ****ing concerned about what sites criminals are visiting, then they can take there computers where you could find an archive of old and deleted files on the Hard drive anyway. This is absolutely uneccessary. The EU is trying to turn into a dicatorship state. Man, this is really aweful. This is just the beginning of the end of privacy. Heed my words!!!!

    BBC NEWS | Technology | Net firms start storing user data
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    Re: RIP Right to Privacy; ISP firms now store our net information.

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Okay im pretty disgusted. I'll be off to Saudi Arabia now where i could probably find more rights to privacy then i could here. This is barbaric, an absolute breach of privacy. Who have access to them? Who will see them, who has the authority and what will they do with my private information?
    What i do on the internet in the privacy of my own home should STAY with me. If police where so ****ing concerned about what sites criminals are visiting, then they can take there computers where you could find an archive of old and deleted files on the Hard drive anyway. This is absolutely uneccessary. The EU is trying to turn into a dicatorship state. Man, this is really aweful. This is just the beginning of the end of privacy. Heed my words!!!!

    BBC NEWS | Technology | Net firms start storing user data
    It's okay, brother. There are technologies you can use to get around their little scheme. Tor: anonymity online

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    Re: RIP Right to Privacy; ISP firms now store our net information.

    Quote Originally Posted by BulletWounD View Post
    It's okay, brother. There are technologies you can use to get around their little scheme. Tor: anonymity online
    You the man. I was trying to think if proxy servers could possibly work around there little abusive invasion of privacy, but then again proxy servers tend to be so laggy.
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    Re: RIP Right to Privacy; ISP firms now store our net information.

    I think this sort of databasing should be completely off hands to the government. This sort of snooping around isn't their duty, privilege, power, or proper use of government authority.
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    Re: RIP Right to Privacy; ISP firms now store our net information.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I think this sort of databasing should be completely off hands to the government. This sort of snooping around isn't their duty, privilege, power, or proper use of government authority.
    LOL... this is only the start.

    You need protection and you need a life long insurance program.
    This is the first step. Information.
    They'll just make sure you do the right thing.
    Nothing more.

    Think of yourself as an AIG executive.
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    Re: RIP Right to Privacy; ISP firms now store our net information.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I think this sort of databasing should be completely off hands to the government. This sort of snooping around isn't their duty, privilege, power, or proper use of government authority.
    Rather have it in the hands of the government that I can elect, than in the hands of a private company that only thinks of profit and I have no influence over what so ever.

    Plus many countries already have these laws, either directly or indirectly in place and have been snooping on your net activity for years. Plus then there is the NSA who listens to everything, including this board .. all in the name of the war on terror of course

    And no I do not support this action in anyway.
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    Re: RIP Right to Privacy; ISP firms now store our net information.

    Quote Originally Posted by BulletWounD View Post
    It's okay, brother. There are technologies you can use to get around their little scheme. Tor: anonymity online
    From Tor website:
    4. Tor anonymizes the origin of your traffic, and it encrypts everything inside the Tor network, but it can't encrypt your traffic between the Tor network and its final destination. If you are communicating sensitive information, you should use as much care as you would on the normal scary Internet use HTTPS or other end-to-end encryption and authentication.
    I don't know the specifics of the client to TOR interface but unless your requests with TOR are encrypted then its still possible for your ISP to mine your browsing.
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    Re: RIP Right to Privacy; ISP firms now store our net information.

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    From Tor website:
    I don't know the specifics of the client to TOR interface but unless your requests with TOR are encrypted then its still possible for your ISP to mine your browsing.
    No, all your ISP can see is that you're connecting to the first tor node. After that, they're pretty much in the dark. TOR is encrypted all the way to the last node, where it must be decrypted in order to communicate with the server you're trying to communicate with. That means that the exit node and routers in between the exit node and the server can see the data flying over the wire. Using HTTPS or other encryption for sensitive information fixes that flaw.
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    Re: RIP Right to Privacy; ISP firms now store our net information.

    Internet is a service. Your use of it is not a right.


    Besides it Europe..you have no Rights unless your government has deemed fit to give them to you.

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    Re: RIP Right to Privacy; ISP firms now store our net information.

    Quote Originally Posted by Triad View Post
    Internet is a service. Your use of it is not a right.


    Besides it Europe..you have no Rights unless your government has deemed fit to give them to you.
    ISP's have a right to decide how much data to log. The government has no business dictating "you must keep data for x months or y years." There's only one reason they would want ISP's to keep this data and that's for future mining.

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