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    Re: Officers killed, wounded in Stanton Heights standoff

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    Police Chief Nate Harper said the motive for the shooting isn't clear, but friends said the gunman recently had been upset about losing his job and feared the Obama administration was poised to ban guns.
    Dude did this fearing his guns would be taken away. My comment about him being a progun nut stands.
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    Re: Officers killed, wounded in Stanton Heights standoff

    It is always sad when people are killed while doing their jobs. Oh Wait! Some jobs come with a chance of getting killed on a daily basis! Being a cop is one of those jobs. Sad. But not unexpected. Just Saying.

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    Re: Officers killed, wounded in Stanton Heights standoff

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Survey says :

    Dude did this fearing his guns would be taken away. My comment about him being a progun nut stands.
    What's your point?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    It is always sad when people are killed while doing their jobs. Oh Wait! Some jobs come with a chance of getting killed on a daily basis! Being a cop is one of those jobs. Sad. But not unexpected. Just Saying.
    Gas station cashiers run the risk of getting shot every day as well. Do you have the same attitude when they get shot, or is your disdain reserved specifically for policemen?
    People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

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    Re: Officers killed, wounded in Stanton Heights standoff

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    From a different source :

    Gunman 'lying in wait' kills 3 Pittsburgh officers



    I can't wait until Goobieman jumps in here saying : 'Still think that gun owners are paranoid?' . Anyways. Sad **** when one of these progun nuts decides to shoot up innocent people. But I'm sure we'll deter crazy people from doing crazy things by giving people who aren't crazy guns.
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    Re: Officers killed, wounded in Stanton Heights standoff

    Wow. This is really turning into my kind of country.

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    Re: Officers killed, wounded in Stanton Heights standoff

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
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    Dude did this fearing his guns would be taken away. My comment about him being a progun nut stands.
    So? Are you saying progun "nuts" are going to run rampant shooting cops? Ted Kaczynski was a PhD mathematician....should we worry about mathematicians indiscriminately bombing people? Guy was crazy, that's all there is to it. Things like this happen from time to time, we've seem to have a few more than usual this week. But you're never going to 100% stop crazy people from having guns, not without some horrible and draconian methods and even those won't stop the crazy people and would probably prompt normal people to take up arms.
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    Re: Officers killed, wounded in Stanton Heights standoff

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Dude did this fearing his guns would be taken away. My comment about him being a progun nut stands.
    I would put it just a bit differently.

    He was a nut.

    He was also pro-gun.

    There are pro and anti-gun nuts, Left and Right wing nuts, and just plain wingnuts.

    There are nuts who kill with knives and hammers, machetes, bombs, poison, anthrax and gas (Aum Shin Ryo (sp?) comes to mind).

    Three things were mentioned:
    He had lost his job.
    There was a "domestic disturbance".
    He was concerned about an Obama gun-ban effort, allegedly.

    Hatuey and the media have chosen to focus on one of the three things that might have been causal agents, the gun issue.

    Perhaps we should ban layoffs and firings. A lot of people who go nuts and kill seem to do so after being fired.

    Perhaps we should ban marriage... offhand I think more cops get hurt or killed responding to domestic disputes than anything else; also a fair number of mass murders are in reaction to domestic problems.
    (/irony).

    This guy was laying in wait for the cops. He could have accomplished his aim (killing cops) just as well with a homemade fougasse fragmentation bomb as with a gun. Again, focusing on the tool doesn't change the fact that he was a looney.

    As someone pointed out, the Unabomber was a left-wing looney...but it would be idiotic to judge all Leftists to be potential mail-bombers, just as judging all gun owners according to the actions of a 1-per-million looney is idiotic.

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    Last edited by Goshin; 04-05-09 at 12:47 PM.

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