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    Re: Reports: 4 shot, hostages taken in Binghamton, NY

    Quote Originally Posted by Polynikes View Post
    Reports now say 13 dead, atleast 26 wounded. The gunman apparently backed his car of the immigration center then entered through the front with a high powered automatic or semi-automatic rifle and began shooting. Reports also say it was 1 Asian male, possibly Vietnamese, with the possibility of more shooters.

    The fact that it is an immigration related building surely lends credence to a possible motive.

    Political repercussions? I wonder if they will jump at the opportunity to highlight the need for tighter gun control regulations.


    I think it was a part of the 90% of weapons found in Mexico that originate in the U.S.....rrrrriiigggghhhttt
    NO doubt this will be used to justify more gun laws in New York.


    but.. I thought people were protected by the already tight and existing gun laws?
    George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to win the war with Britain... He shot them.

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    Re: Reports: 4 shot, hostages taken in Binghamton, NY

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I've also heard there were two people escorted out in handcuffs?

    The facts coming out seem odd and disjointed at this point.
    Indeed they do.

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    Re: Reports: 4 shot, hostages taken in Binghamton, NY

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenb View Post
    NO doubt this will be used to justify more gun laws in New York.


    but.. I thought people were protected by the already tight and existing gun laws?
    Isn't this why we have the second amendment, to guarantee that citizens have the right to overthrow the government when they decide it's time for a revolution? So this guy decided it was time...and his rights to own weapons and use them at his discretion are in the constitution.....what's the big deal?

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    Re: Reports: 4 shot, hostages taken in Binghamton, NY

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Isn't this why we have the second amendment, to guarantee that citizens have the right to overthrow the government when they decide it's time for a revolution? So this guy decided it was time...and his rights to own weapons and use them at his discretion are in the constitution.....what's the big deal?
    This is a fun anti-gun argument.

    Simple, this person's rights ended as soon as he started violating other citizen's of this country's rights.
    George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to win the war with Britain... He shot them.

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    Re: Reports: 4 shot, hostages taken in Binghamton, NY

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Isn't this why we have the second amendment, to guarantee that citizens have the right to overthrow the government when they decide it's time for a revolution? So this guy decided it was time...and his rights to own weapons and use them at his discretion are in the constitution.....what's the big deal?
    Another brilliant illustration as to how you clearly (and willfully) just don't get it.

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    Re: Reports: 4 shot, hostages taken in Binghamton, NY

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Isn't this why we have the second amendment, to guarantee that citizens have the right to overthrow the government when they decide it's time for a revolution? So this guy decided it was time...and his rights to own weapons and use them at his discretion are in the constitution.....what's the big deal?
    Are you saying this about any specific FACTS that have came out of this yet? Or are you just making assumptions, acting on emotion and stereotypes, and leaping to conclussions to try and rail against your token issue of choice like the others in this thread?

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    Re: Reports: 4 shot, hostages taken in Binghamton, NY

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    Re: Reports: 4 shot, hostages taken in Binghamton, NY

    At Least 14 Killed, Including Gunman, In Binghamton Rampage - wcbstv.com

    At least 14 dead including the shooter, who was a 42 year old azn dude. The "assault rifles" that he was armed with turned out to be a 9mm and a .45. He was recently laid off from IBM.
    People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

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    Re: Reports: 4 shot, hostages taken in Binghamton, NY

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenb View Post
    This is a fun anti-gun argument.

    Simple, this person's rights ended as soon as he started violating other citizen's of this country's rights.
    I don't see that it's so simple. If you exercise your constitutional right to overthrow the government with your constitutionally protected weapon, obviously you will intrude on some other citizen. That citizen may be a federal law enforcement officer or it may be a civilian who is unfortunately in the line of fire. Are those citizens not casualties of war?

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    Re: Reports: 4 shot, hostages taken in Binghamton, NY

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Another brilliant illustration as to how you clearly (and willfully) just don't get it.
    I get it fine. What you don't get is that if citizens have the constitutional right to bear arms and overthrow the government, you may not agree with the time and place that they decide to do it.

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