When I was thirteen a neighbor of mine used a tool, what you call a "screwdriver", to skewer the skull of an old lady who wouldn't give him money.
A decade ago a baglady in Venice beach used her handy dandy screwtwisting device to protect her valuable shopping cart from thieves, aka cops. The cops used their tools, because they're big brave specimens of the best cops can be, and shot her.
Guns are a subsets of tools classed also as weapons. As can be seen, the boundaries are blurred.
Very blurred indeed. The other day I was changing my oil and ask a neighbor if it was better to use a .38 Special or a .44 Magnum to remove the oil plan plug. Then today I needed to take the chemical injector off of a pressure washer and used a 12 gauge shotgun instead of a 9/16 wrench because the two were designed to basically do the same thing. Very blurry lines indeed.
It was stated that a gun was a tool which was used for neutralizing threats. When one neutralizes a threat with a gun, one is projecting retaliation with bodily harm, and in this case the gun is a weapon.
Yes, yes, I know a gun is a weapon, not a tool. Well, to me it is a tool: a tool is a device used to solve a problem, when your bare hands won't suffice. I would prefer to discuss substance rather than semantics.
Yes, you have. I'm in my 40's also. I've been attacked; I have family members who have been attacked; I lost a dear friend once to a robbery/murder. I scared off one pair of would-be muggers with a pistol...who probably would not have been impressed if I had told them I was a black belt. You've been very lucky indeed.I have been in the world for 48 years without carrying a gun, and I have not been attacked by any criminal. Guess I have been lucky.
I disagree. In some few cases you might be correct, but my experience argues that it is not so for the majority of people who carry daily. See above... there is a difference between making a rational, informed decision based on experience, and simply reacting to emotional trauma.In most cases, carrying 24/7 means a person is paranoid that evil is out to get him. That person probably has some emotional disorder which was brought on by a traumatic event.
I am glad to hear it. It was not my intention to present a straw man argument, but rather to throw it out there and see what you said about it. I am pleased that you do not wish to restrict second amendment rights.Great. Same here. I have guns knives and bows. They all have their purposes.
Straw man. Not once in this thread have I advocated laws to ban weapons.
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I beg to differ. Defense and retaliation are two seperate issues.
Retaliation is "getting even" after someone has hurt you. The law frowns on this.
Defense is "preventing unlawful harm." In most states the law supports this.
I would rather discuss substance than continuing to bandy semantics however.