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    Re: Reports: 4 shot, hostages taken in Binghamton, NY

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    The freeze response is instinctual.

    So we know this, that one of the instincual responses is to freeze. Are you suggesting we should accept our lot in life and just freeze and bear our necks to the "Wolf"?


    I am advocating a different way, just the way we teach about condoms, sex, drugs, etc, why could we not teach ourselves not to freeze.

    If the situation was one where fighting or fleeing would more likely result in your death, you too would freeze. This is not a conscious decision. It is a survival instinct. Whether one is actually killed is irrelevant. One does not react to an outcome, since that outcome has not occurred, yet.


    As you describe it it surely is a conscious decision. You made the "more likley" comment, indicating indeed in your scenario, one chose to freeze because they thought it more likley to move would cause death.


    You are wrong. A moving target is a much harder object to hit than a stationary one .


    Tell those 17 total shot, how they made the "safer" decision.
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    Re: Reports: 4 shot, hostages taken in Binghamton, NY

    Quote Originally Posted by SkyCore View Post
    Why change what was said?

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    My experience was the primary reason for my getting, and carrying a ccw firearm at all times... irregardless of where I am."
    So, what exactly is your point? Or are you just trying to twist **** to your own little view?
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    Re: Reports: 4 shot, hostages taken in Binghamton, NY

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenb View Post
    So, what exactly is your point? Or are you just trying to twist **** to your own little view?
    He twisted nothing. I wanted to make the same comment when I read your post. Apparently something tragic happened in your life that made you believe you were not safe unless you were carrying a gun. Some peeps use religion as a crutch, you use a gun.

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    Re: Reports: 4 shot, hostages taken in Binghamton, NY

    Quote Originally Posted by FlyOnTheWall View Post
    He twisted nothing. I wanted to make the same comment when I read your post. Apparently something tragic happened in your life that made you believe you were not safe unless you were carrying a gun. Some peeps use religion as a crutch, you use a gun.
    I don't know if you've been paying attention lately.. but the world isn't exactly a safe harbor of love and peace these days.

    I carry a firearm to protect myself and other's in the real world, where I've lived for most of my life.
    George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to win the war with Britain... He shot them.

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    Re: Reports: 4 shot, hostages taken in Binghamton, NY

    Quote Originally Posted by FlyOnTheWall View Post
    He twisted nothing. I wanted to make the same comment when I read your post. Apparently something tragic happened in your life that made you believe you were not safe unless you were carrying a gun. Some peeps use religion as a crutch, you use a gun.
    There's been no tragic event in my life to make me believe I am safer with a gun that without.
    Does that mean I am using a gun as a crutch, too?
    What do YOU use?

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    Re: Reports: 4 shot, hostages taken in Binghamton, NY

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenb View Post
    I don't know if you've been paying attention lately.. but the world isn't exactly a safe harbor of love and peace these days.

    I carry a firearm to protect myself and other's in the real world, where I've lived for most of my life.
    The world is what you make of it

    Honestly, these days are not any different from those days. The only thing that has changed is man has become more proficient at killing.

    I have been paying attention....

    you go GI Joe

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    Re: Reports: 4 shot, hostages taken in Binghamton, NY

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    There's been no tragic event in my life to make me believe I am safer with a gun that without.
    Does that mean I am using a gun as a crutch, too?
    What do YOU use?
    No crutch.

    no need, I live my life one day at a time. Also, unlike others, I am not afraid of death or dying.

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    Re: Reports: 4 shot, hostages taken in Binghamton, NY

    Quote Originally Posted by FlyOnTheWall View Post
    No crutch.
    No need, I live my life one day at a time. Also, unlike others, I am not afraid of death or dying.
    Hmm.
    How does not wanting to die (or be injured or have things taken from you) equate to a fear of death or injury or aving things haven from you?

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    Re: Reports: 4 shot, hostages taken in Binghamton, NY

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Hmm.
    How does not wanting to die (or be injured or have things taken from you) equate to a fear of death or injury or aving things haven from you?
    Could you rephrase this so it makes sense?

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    Re: Reports: 4 shot, hostages taken in Binghamton, NY

    Quote Originally Posted by FlyOnTheWall View Post
    Could you rephrase this so it makes sense?
    It does make sense.

    You state that you are not afraid of death or dying, and as such do not need some 'crutch' to defend yourself.

    Does the desire to not die necessarily come from the fear of dying?

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