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    Re: Reports: 4 shot, hostages taken in Binghamton, NY

    Quote Originally Posted by SkyCore View Post
    I've never asked for clarification but simply pointed out how you defined the victims as being meek for being unarmed. What's happening now isn't "clarification," it's called Millenium Falcon light speed backpedaling. But I don't think that's the most disturbing commentary, it's this one:


    (Posted by RH)
    "The gun is a tool, what is a shame gun or no gun is our society laying down to the wolf. how does 14 people get shot by 1 guy with 2 handguns? did anyone even attempt to fight back? the articles talk about hiding and cowering......"

    A murderer strolls into a building and starts whacking people and you have the audacity to blame them for trying to dodge bullets? That's simply sick and degenerate.



    Thanks for admitting to your trolling.


    You are pathetic. You lie about my position then claim a position of morality. Your honesty and integrity are noted.
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    Re: Reports: 4 shot, hostages taken in Binghamton, NY

    Quote Originally Posted by SkyCore View Post
    From what I can tell the bulk of responses are simply false accusations. Responding to what posts say somehow fall into the categories of baiting, trolling, and lying. This is the Mud Method. If you throw enough on everyone else you can't see them thus you live in a world secure from accountability and the blessings of of an illusory infallibility.


    You among the other two, claimed a position that I corrected you all on 4 times. By ignoring those corrections to attack me is indeed baiting and trolling.


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    Re: Reports: 4 shot, hostages taken in Binghamton, NY

    By what I read, you most certainly are drawing a connection between the dead victims not having any guns and being meek. You claim the killer is a wolf who killed people who have conditioned themselves to be meek. One should realize their own intellectual dishonesty before accusing others of theirs....

    Most people in America are disarmed when they are out living their average everyday lives, and there will always be a few wolves in waiting for the right moment to attack their prey. To call these few meek is to call all unarmed citizens as the meek.





    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Given the prohibitionist nature of NY, there is no doubt in my mind that the people were disarmed. They were lambs to this wolves slaughter. This much we can assume.


    It is a sad reminder that police are historians, and that we are forced to be victims by the hypocrites we vote into power.
    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    How is this related to my commentary? people passed judgment on the burger king guy. Here 14 people let themselves get shot, not only was no one armed, but words like "cower" and "hid" are the words used here. it dismays me to know end that we teach ourselves to be meek when the wolf comes for the slaughter....

    Like the VT tech thing, we have neutered the people and prepared them for the slaughter......







    Yes you are so wonderful you want to think of the poor people first. you already said that. Are you suggesting I don't?
    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    So you admit to baiting me. noted.


    You also build a strawman, I never said that people choosing not to have a gun are meak.


    Get back to me when you want to be honest in our discussion.

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    Re: Reports: 4 shot, hostages taken in Binghamton, NY

    Quote Originally Posted by FlyOnTheWall View Post
    By what I read, you most certainly are drawing a connection between the dead victims not having any guns and being meek. You claim the killer is a wolf who killed people who have conditioned themselves to be meek. One should realize their own intellectual dishonesty before accusing others of theirs....

    Most people in America are disarmed when they are out living their average everyday lives, and there will always be a few wolves in waiting for the right moment to attack their prey. To call these few meek is to call all unarmed citizens as the meek.



    Another one. Did you take my position as a whole?


    Nope.


    Show me in what you quoted where I stated one who chooses not to have a gun is meek.


    My position is, and I will quote from an essay I linked:


    "The students, the victims, at Columbine High School were big, tough high school students, and under ordinary circumstances they would not have had the time of day for a police officer. They were not bad kids; they just had nothing to say to a cop. When the school was under attack, however, and SWAT teams were clearing the rooms and hallways, the officers had to physically peel those clinging, sobbing kids off of them. This is how the little lambs feel about their sheepdog when the wolf is at the door. "


    On Sheep, Wolves, and Sheepdogs - Dave Grossman



    We teach our society to be meek in the face of the wolf. To wait for the coming slaughter. .What other way can you explain 14 peole being shot and killed by one man and two pistols?


    The gun is irrellevant.


    5th time I explained my position.
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    Re: Reports: 4 shot, hostages taken in Binghamton, NY

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Another one. Did you take my position as a whole?


    Nope.


    Show me in what you quoted where I stated one who chooses not to have a gun is meek.


    We teach our society to be meek in the face of the wolf. To wait for the coming slaughter. .What other way can you explain 14 peole being shot and killed by one man and two pistols?


    The gun is irrellevant.


    5th time I explained my position.
    I have read your posts, and your position appears to be you are struggling to understand why so many people choose to hide from a gunman instead of fighting, and that America as a whole has been conditioned to be meek, or docile. You may be correct, however the flip side of that coin would lead to a more violent nation than what we already have.

    I said you were drawing conclusions, which is accurate. I do not understand why you have taken offense to others interpretation of your comments. Apparently you do believe that America is full of meek wimps. You shouldn't have to defend your position unless you really don't believe it.

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    Re: Reports: 4 shot, hostages taken in Binghamton, NY

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Thanks for admitting to your trolling.

    Now that is a straight up lie because all I pointed out was accusations of trolling, baiting, and lying are the pattern you use in response to people pointing out what your posts have stated.



    You are pathetic. You lie about my position then claim a position of morality. Your honesty and integrity are noted.

    Thank you. I'd probably have to kill myself if someone who made those crazy comments about the victims viewed me as an ally.

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    Re: Reports: 4 shot, hostages taken in Binghamton, NY

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    If you are really the mature firearms enthusiasts that you claim to be...
    IIRC, you argument to this effect has been thoroughly debunked.

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    Re: Reports: 4 shot, hostages taken in Binghamton, NY

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    IIRC, you argument to this effect has been thoroughly debunked.

    The only effect I saw there was to chop up a post followed by an unsupported claim. Gun lovers have a strong reputation for that so it isn't surprising.

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    Re: Reports: 4 shot, hostages taken in Binghamton, NY

    Quote Originally Posted by SkyCore View Post
    The only effect I saw there was to chop up a post followed by an unsupported claim.
    Then you were not paying attention.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1057964876

    Hoplophobes have a strong reputation for that, so its not surprising.

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    Re: Reports: 4 shot, hostages taken in Binghamton, NY

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Then you were not paying attention.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1057964876

    Hoplophobes have a strong reputation for that, so its not surprising.

    Linking that post made no sense because he was specifically addressing RH, not you or anyone else. And the term "hoplophobe" isn't a universal license to do anything to the constant abuse of the term simply reveals the lack of integrity by gun lovers.

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