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    Ex-sailor sentenced to 10 years in terror case

    Ex-sailor sentenced to 10 years in terror case

    By JOHN CHRISTOFFERSEN,
    Associated Press Writer 30 mins ago
    NEW HAVEN, Conn. – A former Navy sailor convicted of leaking details about ship movements and the best ways to attack them was sentenced Friday to the maximum 10 years in prison.

    U.S. District Judge Mark Kravitz said Hassan Abu-Jihaad, of Phoenix, betrayed his country and endangered his fellow sailors.

    "I cannot really overstate the seriousness of this crime," Kravitz said. The leak "does constitute a fundamental betrayal of your country and of your oath. You endangered your colleagues, you endangered your vessel and other vessels and other sailors, and you endangered your country."

    Abu-Jihaad was convicted last year of disclosing classified national defense information. Prosecutors labeled him a traitor who was trying to help foreign terrorists replicate the bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 American sailors.

    Abu-Jihaad was a signalman aboard the USS Benfold who was honorably discharged from the Navy in 2002. He was accused of passing along information including the makeup of his Navy battle group and a drawing of the formation the group would use to pass through the dangerous Strait of Hormuz in the Persian Gulf in April 2001.

    The ship was not attacked.
    Ex-sailor sentenced to 10 years in terror case

    How do we know when Muslims in positions of responsibility or sensitivity in the military or in everyday life feel a greater allegiance to the Koran, which is antithetical to Democracy, than to the US government?

    The argument will be that a Christian could be posed the same question but the Bible doesn't conflict with Democracy, saying “Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s.”

    As much as I want to give innocent Muslims their due, I can't forget that when push comes to shove about 20% - 30% will work to support Islam rather than the US government.

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    Re: Ex-sailor sentenced to 10 years in terror case

    Personally, I don't see why he wasn't tried for treason and executed.

    It's one thing to be against the war, it's another to give away state secrets and endanger thousands of lives.
    George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to win the war with Britain... He shot them.

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    Re: Ex-sailor sentenced to 10 years in terror case

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenb View Post
    Personally, I don't see why he wasn't tried for treason and executed.

    It's one thing to be against the war, it's another to give away state secrets and endanger thousands of lives.
    You make a good point.

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    Re: Ex-sailor sentenced to 10 years in terror case

    Spent the last ten years listening to the jackass political pundits calling everyone who disagrees with them "traitors" and accusing people of "treason" like they were accusing them of taking the last piece of pizza... my own father called me a ****ing traitor for voting for Kerry...

    ... and we get real, honest-to-god treason and the traitorous scum picks up a nickel?

    I'd do more jail time for copyright infringement if the FBI ever took a good look at my hard drive.

    This isn't a miscarriage of justice. This is a full-blown T-minus 24 hours partial birth abortion of justice.

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    Re: Ex-sailor sentenced to 10 years in terror case

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    As much as I want to give innocent Muslims their due, I can't forget that when push comes to shove about 20% - 30% will work to support Islam rather than the US government.
    There is a difference between supporting Islam and supporting anti-US groups. A Muslim can effectively support the US and be still be a good Muslim.

    This guy is a traitor, no matter his religion, and choose to put whoever he was working with above his duty.
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    Re: Ex-sailor sentenced to 10 years in terror case

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    There is a difference between supporting Islam and supporting anti-US groups. A Muslim can effectively support the US and be still be a good Muslim.
    This is a matter of individual interpretation, isn't it? And stats show that 20 - 30% of all Muslims support "jihad" over allegiance to government.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    This guy is a traitor, no matter his religion, and choose to put whoever he was working with above his duty.
    We agree.

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    Re: Ex-sailor sentenced to 10 years in terror case

    Why is this not treason. Can some one tell me what he would have had to do to actually make it treason.

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    Re: Ex-sailor sentenced to 10 years in terror case

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    Ex-sailor sentenced to 10 years in terror case

    By JOHN CHRISTOFFERSEN,
    Associated Press Writer 30 mins ago


    Ex-sailor sentenced to 10 years in terror case

    How do we know when Muslims in positions of responsibility or sensitivity in the military or in everyday life feel a greater allegiance to the Koran, which is antithetical to Democracy, than to the US government?

    The argument will be that a Christian could be posed the same question but the Bible doesn't conflict with Democracy, saying “Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s.”

    As much as I want to give innocent Muslims their due, I can't forget that when push comes to shove about 20% - 30% will work to support Islam rather than the US government.
    Please familiarize yourself with the long history of anti-catholicism in the united states.

    Change the name of the faith, and you sound like a KKK recruiter from the 1920s.
    People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

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