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    Re: Iowa Court says gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Marriage has been recognized as a fundamental right.
    Regardless, Constitutional Equal Protection applies to privileges granted by states as well as those that are considered "fundamental rights"
    Sure, gays can get "married" all they want. They just don't have the right it being "legitimized" through the state.

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    Re: Iowa Court says gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    In all of your ranting, you completely failed to answer my question. Navy's positions are not relevant to my question.

    How does a 50% +1 vote have any legal standing on the right of women to vote?
    The same way a 50% +1 vote has any legal standing on the right of a state to deny a contract based on sexual orientation.
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    Re: Iowa Court says gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by BulletWounD View Post
    Sure, gays can get "married" all they want. They just don't have the right it being "legitimized" through the state.
    Sure they do. The government should not be involved in denying issuance of contracts based on a person's sexual orientation, any more than they should deny it based on the color of a person's hair.
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    Re: Iowa Court says gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The same way a 50% +1 vote has any legal standing on the right of a state to deny a contract based on sexual orientation.
    So you are claiming that a mere 50% +1 vote would legally remove the right of women to vote in this country, correct?

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    Re: Iowa Court says gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    He is absolutely right on target Navy. Since it is up for the people to decide, shouldn't the issue of slavery be decided by a 50% +1 vote?
    What about the rights to own property?
    What about the right of women to vote? Should we put that to a 50% +1 vote.
    I know, lets let people decide if people should be allowed to own guns. Under your theory that should as well be put to a 50% +1 vote.

    Lets let the people decide, huh Navy?

    Would you be "OK with it" if the People of Washington passed a law that said "Marriage is only between a black man and a black woman"?

    Yeah the people could pass a laww that up is down and down is up to but that is not going to happen and neither is your ridiculous example.....
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    Re: Iowa Court says gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    So you are claiming that a mere 50% +1 vote would legally remove the right of women to vote in this country, correct?
    It shouldn't. But look at Prop 8. That's exactly what it did.
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    Re: Iowa Court says gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Yeah the people could pass a laww that up is down and down is up to but that is not going to happen and neither is your ridiculous example.....
    So, if the people did pass such a law, would you support it? After all, it is the will of the people right?
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    Re: Iowa Court says gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    It shouldn't. But look at Prop 8. That's exactly what it did.
    A 50% +1 vote cannot possibly affect the right of women to vote. Not in the United States of America.

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    Re: Iowa Court says gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    So, if the people did pass such a law, would you support it? After all, it is the will of the people right?
    Of course not but your example is ridiculous........It would never happen.
    Last edited by Navy Pride; 04-07-09 at 04:17 PM.
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    Re: Iowa Court says gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Sure they do. The government should not be involved in denying issuance of contracts based on a person's sexual orientation, any more than they should deny it based on the color of a person's hair.
    Therefore making a stong case for civil unions, not gay "marriage."

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