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    Re: Iowa Court says gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    The law about polygamy applies equally to all religions where as the law on gay marriage does not apply equally to gender.
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    Explain how the argument for changng 'man and woman' cannot be equally applied to changing 'two'.

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    Re: Iowa Court says gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Relevance?

    Explain how the argument for changng 'man and woman' cannot be equally applied to changing 'two'.
    I just did.

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    Re: Iowa Court says gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenb View Post
    Explain in my belief-set (libertarian), why it matters what "marriage" is defined as please.
    I'm sorry... were you going to explain how the argument for changng 'man and woman' cannot be equally applied to changing 'two', or not?

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    Re: Iowa Court says gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I just did.
    No. You did not.

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    Re: Iowa Court says gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I'm sorry... were you going to explain how the argument for changng 'man and woman' cannot be equally applied to changing 'two', or not?
    I'm sorry, but as far as I'm concerned it could be changed to whatever people would like.

    So, in essence, your explain how it cannot be equally applied is moot.
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    Re: Iowa Court says gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    No. You did not.
    I'm sorry but what don't you understand? The laws about polygamy apply equally across the board where as the laws about gay marriage discriminate base on gender.

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    Re: Iowa Court says gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    If this is the game we're playing, doesn't fault then lie withing the SCotUS? It was the courts which ruled originally that the marriage license could not be applied to just interracial marriage. They changed marriage from between a man and a woman of the same race to just a man and a woman. So if that was changed, it is the source of all the downfall. Because clearly we as humans can't be rational about this so if we allow same sex marriage, we're totally going to allow polygamy, and let's throw in bestiality in there cause why do we have to limit it to the same species? Let's take the slippery slope and see where it goes, of course if we always did that nothing would get done. And in this instance it's very possible to be rational about this. But since we're not using rational arguments, then we'll tread back up the slippery slope to where it all started. We should never have allowed interracial marriage, that paved the way for the downfall of marriage. The purpose of the marriage license was to discriminate, it's still used that way (wonders how humanity grows).
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    Re: Iowa Court says gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenb View Post
    I'm sorry, but as far as I'm concerned it could be changed to whatever people would like.

    So, in essence, your explain how it cannot be equally applied is moot.
    Then on what grounds do you oppose the position that 'same sex marriage leads to polygamy'?

    It's VERY plain to me that the argument for changng 'man and woman' can be equally applied to changing 'two'.

    "If two consenting adults want to marry..."
    "If three consenting adults want to marry..."

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    Re: Iowa Court says gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I'm sorry but what don't you understand?
    The part where you think any of that nullfies the argument for gay marrige, as applied to polygamy.

    "If two consenting adults want to marry..."
    "If three consenting adults want to marry..."

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    Re: Iowa Court says gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Then on what grounds do you oppose the position that 'same sex marriage leads to polygamy'?

    It's VERY plain to me that the argument for changng 'man and woman' can be equally applied to changing 'two'.

    "If two consenting adults want to marry..."
    "If three consenting adults want to marry..."
    Then I apologize for being vague of my support for this.

    In my eyes the clear definition of "a union between two consenting adults" does not lead to polygamy.

    But if it did, I wouldn't contest it either as I believe the government shouldn't have their hands in people's personal lives much as they do now.
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