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    Re: Iowa Court says gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Well...if you refuse to accept the notion that the Supreme Court is the final arbiter of our laws....then I can't help you. Sorry.
    This would be the same Supreme Court that handed down such triumphs of justice as Dred Scott v Sanford, Plessy v Ferguson (overturned in Brown v Board of Education), and Buck v Bell (largely overturned in Skinner v Oklahoma), correct?
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    Re: Iowa Court says gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    But drinking is open to everybody... why isn't marriage then?
    You mean driving?

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    Re: Iowa Court says gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    This would be the same Supreme Court that handed down such triumphs of justice as Dred Scott v Sanford, Plessy v Ferguson (overturned in Brown v Board of Education, and Buck v Bell (largely overturned in Skinner v Oklahoma), correct?
    Absolutely. Cases are overturned all the time. That's why the court is the final arbiter. Sometimes, they realize that they got it wrong.
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    Re: Iowa Court says gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Its because you don't understand jurisprudence.
    Prove it.

    There are a lot of links on the internet if you search around. I posted some a while back.
    I prefer legal and historical texts, but thanks anyway.

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    Re: Iowa Court says gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Absolutely. Cases are overturned all the time. That's why the court is the final arbiter. Sometimes, they realize that they got it wrong.
    And sometimes they never realize they got it wrong and sometimes the people realize they got it wrong before they do.

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    Re: Iowa Court says gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    But would you advocate for that?
    When SD had a gay-marriage ban on the ballot a couple years ago, I did not support it, so why would I support any ban like what you present?

    I have not made any argument on this thread against gay-marriage.

    I'm pointing out that gay-marriage is not a civil rights issue, and that is not an anti-gm argument.

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    Driving is not a civil right's issue, and saying so does not automatically mean I support all sorts of restrictions on driving.

    Any restrictions I would support stand on their own and do not exist simply because they are legal to enact.
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    Re: Iowa Court says gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Prove it.
    Read your posts



    Quote Originally Posted by Etheral
    I prefer legal and historical texts, but thanks anyway.
    The problem is...you are reading them and interpreting them according to YOUR view of the words. Part of being American is that others may disagree.
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    Re: Iowa Court says gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Absolutely. Cases are overturned all the time. That's why the court is the final arbiter. Sometimes, they realize that they got it wrong.
    Like the Iowa Supreme Court got its gay marriage ruling wrong.

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    Re: Iowa Court says gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    When SD had a gay-marriage ban on the ballot a couple years ago, I did not support it, so why would I support any ban like what you present?

    I have not made any argument on this thread against gay-marriage.

    I'm pointing out that gay-marriage is not a civil rights issue, and that is not an anti-gm argument.
    gay marriage is absolutely a civil rights issue. How can you possibly argue it isn't?

    The courts have recognized marriage as being a fundamental right. An infringement on that right is by its very definition a civil rights issue.
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    Re: Iowa Court says gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Like the Iowa Supreme Court got its gay marriage ruling wrong.
    Perhaps. That's why the courts are necessary for that type of thing.
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