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    Re: Iowa Court says gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenb View Post
    Erhm, not really.
    Please explain how that is not the case.

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    Re: Iowa Court says gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Please explain how that is not the case.
    Because the definition of marriage isn't being altered in such a fashion that says..

    X can marry Y, oh, and they can marry Z too.

    It's still how it should have been when it was first created:

    A union between two consenting adults.
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    Re: Iowa Court says gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    I think we should just abolish marriage altogether and make everybody just form an LLC instead.

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    Re: Iowa Court says gay marriage ban unconstitutional

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    I think we should just abolish marriage altogether and make everybody just form an LLC instead.
    lol!
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    Re: Iowa Court says gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenb View Post
    Because the definition of marriage isn't being altered in such a fashion that says..
    X can marry Y, oh, and they can marry Z too.
    It's still how it should have been when it was first created:
    A union between two consenting adults.
    You haven't explained how the argument for changng 'man and woman' cannot be equally applied to changing 'two'.

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    Re: Iowa Court says gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    You haven't explained how the argument for changng 'man and woman' cannot be equally applied to changing 'two'.
    You're playing in semantics now.

    What's keeping animal lovers from not getting it changed to "x can marry y, or this list of farm animals: ... "?

    We can exercise in hyperbolic arguments all day, the fact of the matter is there is a large and growing group of people who are oppressed by simple mindedness and would just like equal and fair treatment. They've got it in Iowa and a few other states. And while alot of times I don't agree with their tactics, I do agree with their end-goal of being equal.. seeing how in the eyes of the constitution as a citizen they're the same as you and I. (Or at least, they should be.)
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    Re: Iowa Court says gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenb View Post
    You're playing in semantics now.

    What's keeping animal lovers from not getting it changed to "x can marry y, or this list of farm animals: ... "?

    We can exercise in hyperbolic arguments all day, the fact of the matter is there is a large and growing group of people who are oppressed by simple mindedness and would just like equal and fair treatment. They've got it in Iowa and a few other states. And while alot of times I don't agree with their tactics, I do agree with their end-goal of being equal.. seeing how in the eyes of the constitution as a citizen they're the same as you and I. (Or at least, they should be.)
    "Oppressed?" Get real.

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    Re: Iowa Court says gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenb View Post
    You're playing in semantics now.
    No. I am not.

    I said:

    If the argument for changing 'man and woman' to 'two individuals' is sound, then the same argument for changing 'two individuals' to 'two or more individuals' is equally sound.
    You have not explained how this is not the case; you have not explained how the argument for changng 'man and woman' cannot be equally applied to changing 'two'.

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    Re: Iowa Court says gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    I just love it when someone backed into a corner comes out with, "So, we should just allow Kermit marry Piss Piggy if they want to?"

    It never gets old.


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    Re: Iowa Court says gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by BulletWounD View Post
    "Oppressed?" Get real.
    Maybe oppressed wasn't the correct word, but, by and by they are definitely having their rights subjugated by these types of laws.
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