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    Re: Obama issues warning as North Korea readies rocket

    And funny for those salivating for the U.S. or Japan to shoot down the rocket, nothing happened. Imagine that.

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    Re: Obama issues warning as North Korea readies rocket

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    For the slap on the wrist they will get? I highly doubt North Korea will become anymore alienated, trade or economic wise, then it already is.
    Actually it will probably ensure them a shot at direct talks with the U.S.
    *insert profound statement here*

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    Re: Obama issues warning as North Korea readies rocket

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Actually it will probably ensure them a shot at direct talks with the U.S.
    Like a kid that purposefully gets into trouble for attention.
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    Re: Obama issues warning as North Korea readies rocket

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    The answer here is quite simple and very apparent. Fail. At any cost to this nation, he wants him to fail.
    Obama has taken us down the road and larded us with trillions in burdens.
    He deserves his own page at FAIL Blog: Pictures and Videos of Owned, Pwnd and Fail Moments

    That said... in this instance I have to agree with the Libs...
    Look at the time line and you find Obama in this instance doesn't have many options at his disposal, and is doing what predecessors have done... on the surface.

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    Re: Obama issues warning as North Korea readies rocket

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Obama has taken us down the road and larded us with trillions in burdens.
    He deserves his own page at FAIL Blog: Pictures and Videos of Owned, Pwnd and Fail Moments

    That said... in this instance I have to agree with the Libs...
    Look at the time line and you find Obama in this instance doesn't have many options at his disposal, and is doing what predecessors have done... on the surface.

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    There are some unintended consequences here. South Korea is going to allow Voice of America to transmit from their soil for the first time in 40 years, this time on AM frequencies that anybody with a radio should be able to receive. They've also expressed interest in joining the Proliferation Security Initiative. Doubtless, the intelligence agencies of the concerned parties will place more emphasis on North Korea. If the international community does not implement a strong response, it will highlight the need for Japan to consider remilitarizing and potentially working on a nuclear program of their own.

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    Re: Obama issues warning as North Korea readies rocket

    They're saying it failed again.

    "Stage one of the missile fell into the Sea of Japan. The remaining stages along with the payload itself landed in the Pacific Ocean," according to a statement from NORAD and the Northern Command, read by White House press secretary Robert Gibbs. See details of the rocket and its path

    "No object entered orbit and no debris fell on Japan," the statement added. "NORAD and [the Northern Command] assesses the launch vehicle as not a threat to North America or Hawaii and took no action in response to this launch."
    North Korea launches rocket, sparks international criticism - CNN.com

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    Re: Obama issues warning as North Korea readies rocket

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Your position is that Obama should order it shot down.
    .... if..... what?
    What, exactly, did I say?
    And how is what -actually- posted ridiculous?

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    Re: Obama issues warning as North Korea readies rocket

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    .... if..... what?
    What, exactly, did I say?
    And how is what -actually- posted ridiculous?
    You said in response to a question about what other options Obama has besides the one you deemed pathetic...

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    There are numerous other things, not the least of which is the statement that we -will- shoot down any missile that in on a track that endangers any part of the US or our allies. He could also resolve to eliminate NK ability to launch these missiles, should they continue along this track.

    Remember that no one, especially you, has any idea what payload these bords carry.
    So maybe you didn't mean "shoot it down", maybe you meant destroy the launch sites...an even worse course of action. Either way it was a ridiculous position to take.
    *insert profound statement here*

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    Re: Obama issues warning as North Korea readies rocket

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    You said in response to a question about what other options Obama has besides the one you deemed pathetic...
    I said that he shoud make the statement that:

    we -will- shoot down any missile that in on a track that endangers any part of the US or our allies
    How is that ridiculous?

    I also said that:

    He could also resolve to eliminate NK ability to launch these missiles, should they continue along this track
    How is that ridiculous?

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    Re: Obama issues warning as North Korea readies rocket

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I said that he shoud make the statement that:



    How is that ridiculous?

    I also said that:



    How is that ridiculous?
    Did you not read the rest of the thread? The answer is in that conversation that BulletWound and I had.

    Drawing a line in the sand like that and then not following through with the threat announces to the world that the U.S. has no backbone. We would lose face and North Korea would be emboldened as this would verify to them that we are unprepared to actually go to war at this time. Following through on the threat and starting a major war that we are not in a position to support effectively is absolutely ridiculous for very obvious reasons.

    The common sense approach to this situation, one that didn't involve preemptive destruction of the launch site or intercepting the rocket after launch (an approach I and others offered up) was executed by President Obama. He did exactly what he should have done. He warned them not to do it, he got other nations to warn North Korea not to do it, and he waited for their compliance...ready to act if it appeared that this launch would threaten the U.S. or our allies. And thank God he did.

    Had he thought like you, we would either look like a bunch of limp wristed blowhards or we would be at war with the DPRK.
    *insert profound statement here*

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