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    Re: The Myth of 90 Percent: Only a Small Fraction of Guns in Mexico Come From U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenb View Post
    We're back to economics 101.. why would drug cartel a buy AR15s and Semi-Automatic ak47s from the United States at $1k a pop... when they can buy Russian, Cuban, and Chinese AK47s which are full auto for $250-300 a pop?

    Also, can you please enlighten me as to where I can legally purchase an m60, an m4, or a full auto ak47 in our country? Possibly could you also tell me where I can pick up RPGs and grenades? Last time I checked Bass Pro Shop didn't carry them.
    You'd think these type of detailed (and relevant) questions would be not only essential, but quite fascinating to any decent news reporter assigned to this story. It appears not.

    I don't know what they teach in journalism schools these days. I really don't. Many can't even determine when to use 'then' or 'than' or 'who,' 'whom' or 'that'.

    Last edited by Grateful Heart; 04-04-09 at 12:21 PM.

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    Re: The Myth of 90 Percent: Only a Small Fraction of Guns in Mexico Come From U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    If only liberals read the 2nd amendment like they do the amendment that protects the right to an abortion...
    What amendment protects the rights to an abortion?
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    Re: The Myth of 90 Percent: Only a Small Fraction of Guns in Mexico Come From U.S.

    He was being sarcastic.

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    Re: The Myth of 90 Percent: Only a Small Fraction of Guns in Mexico Come From U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
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    5. Because it is a difficult statistic to find. Like the Raw FBI files found in her closet.
    4. It was the fault of the press. She really said 19%.
    3. She is the smartest woman in the world, and what she says... goes. (Ask Bill).
    2. The Clintons like to shoot their wad first and clean up the mess after.
    1. She has the same twisted world view as Obama; blame America first.


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    Re: The Myth of 90 Percent: Only a Small Fraction of Guns in Mexico Come From U.S.

    I guess I don't understand what the big deal is. If I read this article from the conservative Washington Times:

    U.S.-Mexico border violence persists - Washington Times

    And this one from USA Today:

    ATF: most illegal guns in Mexico come from U.S. - USATODAY.com

    I would think that 90% of guns found in Mexico could be traced back to the United States. What I find interesting is that the facts alleged by Hillary Clinton and company were asserted by Michael Sullivan. The ones alleged in the Fox News article are asserted by a nameless person.

    I'm not saying that the facts alleged by Hillary Clinton and company are right; rather, I am saying that what they stated was based on facts that perhaps failed to use the specific terminology that the nameless ATF employee provided.

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    Re: The Myth of 90 Percent: Only a Small Fraction of Guns in Mexico Come From U.S.

    I like this game.

    Create the problem: War on Drugs
    Offer a Solution: War on Guns

    What's next is anybody's guess.

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    Re: The Myth of 90 Percent: Only a Small Fraction of Guns in Mexico Come From U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    Fun with statistics. The 90% is obviously inflated. And common sense tells us that 17% is most likely the minimum number. The truth, as always, lies somewhere in between.

    But it is interesting how numbers like this get tossed about in the public with little or no scrutiny.

    Correction: "it is interesting how numbers like this get tossed about in the mainstream media with little or no scrutiny."

    The answer to this is obvious; if it fits their pre-conceived template of bias, then they don't feel the need to check the figures. If the source is a Conservative one, they will attack it and provide counter points to it.
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    Re: The Myth of 90 Percent: Only a Small Fraction of Guns in Mexico Come From U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Correction: "it is interesting how numbers like this get tossed about in the mainstream media with little or no scrutiny."

    The answer to this is obvious; if it fits their pre-conceived template of bias, then they don't feel the need to check the figures. If the source is a Conservative one, they will attack it and provide counter points to it.
    Oh really? So why didn't the media check the figures and attack this article from the conservative Washington Times?

    U.S.-Mexico border violence persists - Washington Times
    Last edited by aps; 04-06-09 at 12:30 PM.

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    Re: The Myth of 90 Percent: Only a Small Fraction of Guns in Mexico Come From U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Oh really? So why didn't the media check the figures and attack this article from the conservative Washington Times?

    U.S.-Mexico border violence persists - Washington Times
    Because the standard of objective journalism has been thrown in the trash in favor of sensational headlines due to the infantile nature of the general public.

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    Re: The Myth of 90 Percent: Only a Small Fraction of Guns in Mexico Come From U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by BulletWounD View Post
    I like this game.

    Create the problem: War on Drugs
    Offer a Solution: War on Guns

    What's next is anybody's guess.
    We have a war on wealth at the moment...

    Next? War on free speech.
    It's been put into motion too.

    War on Poverty is a great creation/game.
    What's interesting is they keep shooting at those most able to help in their misguided war.

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