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    Re: The Myth of 90 Percent: Only a Small Fraction of Guns in Mexico Come From U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHurt View Post
    Now if our government would enforce our border and immigration laws, we could reduce the number even further.

    That would be smart policy, instead of penalizing our citizens by trying to violate the 2nd amendment and banning guns.
    Border "enforcement" is itself based upon a myth. At the core of addressing problems related to immigration is repeal of trade liberalization.

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    Re: The Myth of 90 Percent: Only a Small Fraction of Guns in Mexico Come From U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    Border "enforcement" is itself based upon a myth. At the core of addressing problems related to immigration is repeal of trade liberalization.
    No, we need to increase funding of our naturalization program and increase the quotas while simultaneously working to expel the illegal immigrants.

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    Re: The Myth of 90 Percent: Only a Small Fraction of Guns in Mexico Come From U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by BulletWounD View Post
    No, we need to increase funding of our naturalization program and increase the quotas while simultaneously working to expel the illegal immigrants.
    That's an inefficient and ultimately untenable course of action. Repeal of trade liberalization will eventually reverse the destabilized state of the Mexican working class.

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    Re: The Myth of 90 Percent: Only a Small Fraction of Guns in Mexico Come From U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    That's an inefficient and ultimately untenable course of action. Repeal of trade liberalization will eventually reverse the destabilized state of the Mexican working class.
    Not really. The reason they're coming over here is because the cost of labor in Mexico is **** and the average person lives in squalor. They can come over here and reduce the cost of labor in America, thus revitalizing our manufacturing sector while increasing the cost of labor in Mexico, thus increasing the quality of life of the working man in Mexico.

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    Re: The Myth of 90 Percent: Only a Small Fraction of Guns in Mexico Come From U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    Fun with statistics. The 90% is obviously inflated. And common sense tells us that 17% is most likely the minimum number. The truth, as always, lies somewhere in between.

    But it is interesting how numbers like this get tossed about in the public with little or no scrutiny.

    Since the media shares the same anti-2nd amendment sentiment that a lot of those in office share or claim to share it was in their interest to spread the lie.
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    Re: The Myth of 90 Percent: Only a Small Fraction of Guns in Mexico Come From U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    -- the press gobbled up the number and didn't do a thing to check it out.
    Sadly, this is pretty much standard operating procedure for news media.

    I miss the days when you had well researched articles that took a full day to write instead of those that have a 3hr deadline. This is the sad side effect of the age of information.
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    Re: The Myth of 90 Percent: Only a Small Fraction of Guns in Mexico Come From U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Keorythe View Post
    Sadly, this is pretty much standard operating procedure for news media.

    I miss the days when you had well researched articles that took a full day to write instead of those that have a 3hr deadline. This is the sad side effect of the age of information.
    The article itself answers your dilemma. Many guns have the numbers filed off. You can't trace them, so there's no use sending them back to the US, even though they might say "Colt" on the grip. Mexicans like American guns, that's why 90% of the guns they use are American.

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    Re: The Myth of 90 Percent: Only a Small Fraction of Guns in Mexico Come From U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    The article itself answers your dilemma. Many guns have the numbers filed off. You can't trace them, so there's no use sending them back to the US, even though they might say "Colt" on the grip. Mexicans like American guns, that's why 90% of the guns they use are American.
    loool

    So.. mexico confiscated 29k weapons.. and of those 29k the 6k or whatever were supposedly american made.

    We're back to economics 101.. why would drug cartel a buy AR15s and Semi-Automatic ak47s from the United States at $1k a pop... when they can buy Russian, Cuban, and Chinese AK47s which are full auto for $250-300 a pop?

    Also, can you please enlighten me as to where I can legally purchase an m60, an m4, or a full auto ak47 in our country? Possibly could you also tell me where I can pick up RPGs and grenades? Last time I checked Bass Pro Shop didn't carry them.
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    Re: The Myth of 90 Percent: Only a Small Fraction of Guns in Mexico Come From U.S.

    But Faux News can't be taken seriously now, can it?

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    Re: The Myth of 90 Percent: Only a Small Fraction of Guns in Mexico Come From U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    The article itself answers your dilemma. Many guns have the numbers filed off. You can't trace them, so there's no use sending them back to the US, even though they might say "Colt" on the grip. Mexicans like American guns, that's why 90% of the guns they use are American.

    Can you provide proof of those numbers being filed off? Can you give me an explanation of why a WANTED CRIMINAL in possesion of an ILLEGAL WEAPON who has killed or is prepared to kill police and federal agents would care about filing off a serial number?

    People file off serial numbers of personal REGISTERED weapons in the case of having to dump the weapon if used in a crime. So unless the Mexican gangs start using their own ID's to register their illegal firearms in the US is really doesn't matter. Strawman purchasers take from various clients and then disappear. Thats why you don't see arrests on those individuals.

    The Mexican government still has yet to publically admit weapons, explosives, and ammunition coming from other countries despite their own news agencies reporting the trace information.

    This is a setup to reliquish pressure on the own government being at fault while providing a scapegoat (the US). Additionally it gives them the ability to play on guilt when asking for financial aid, training, equipment, and TRADE deals in the future. And they will ask. NAFTA II in the making.
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