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    Re: Man dies during G20 protests in London

    Quote Originally Posted by BulletWounD View Post
    We've had some sick **** here too. The other day a guy cut his little sister's head off on her fifth birthday as she was cutting her cake. After that he stabbed his other sister multiple times. I don't know if she lived or not. I think this is symptomatic of our cultural decline.
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    Re: Man dies during G20 protests in London

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Laila,

    Did you know these protesters use phony... theatrical blood.

    Some deserve a good smacking, and I'm surprised more aren't injured or dead.

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    Re: Man dies during G20 protests in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Absolutely, and there were hundreds of others also there.

    The enviromental protestors no less! That was disgusting, if it was the BOE one, that is understandable despite the fact i was trapped. There was people there causing trouble but the enviromental protestors did NOTHING to warrant such police activity and the legal observers who oversee this was trapped with us and was not allowed to leave
    Of course you got to agitate the crowd into violence when the timing is right.
    LiveLeak.com - Reporter Gets Charged By Riot Police

    Did the protesters attack the police or did the police attack the protesters in this video below?
    LiveLeak.com - Police Attack On Peaceful G20 Climate Camp In London
    And do we need to be using hounds on people?
    LiveLeak.com - G20 Summit, London, G20 London, G20 Protests, G20 Demonstrations"




    Lets make it easier. Who is aggressing who? I don't see protesters wearing gear to beat the **** out of anyone.

    I think protesters need to learn how to all grab for a singled out officer with shield/club and have 3 people rip it out of the cops hand and start divying them out to those willing to hold the line without actually hitting a cop. Disarm them, then then continue the protest.

    I don't think a cop will be willing to stifle you without his tools.
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    Re: Man dies during G20 protests in London

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Of course you got to agitate the crowd into violence when the timing is right.
    LiveLeak.com - Reporter Gets Charged By Riot Police

    Did the protesters attack the police or did the police attack the protesters in this video below?
    LiveLeak.com - Police Attack On Peaceful G20 Climate Camp In London
    And do we need to be using hounds on people?
    LiveLeak.com - G20 Summit, London, G20 London, G20 Protests, G20 Demonstrations"

    Lets make it easier. Who is aggressing who? I don't see protesters wearing gear to beat the **** out of anyone.

    I think protesters need to learn how to all grab for a singled out officer with shield/club and have 3 people rip it out of the cops hand and start divying them out to those willing to hold the line without actually hitting a cop. Disarm them, then then continue the protest.

    I don't think a cop will be willing to stifle you without his tools.
    Ill admit there was some harsh displays by the police for example the fact they trapped us all in and we had no supplies or anything sucked, but you know thats to be expected since the worlds 20 most powerful leaders where attending one event. Its called security measures, the police did there job, and this blood and guts nonsense was conducted by a bunch of drama queen communists and tree shaggers. Dont buy it for a minute that the police where out of line, believe me i was watching them closely. These so called hippy "peace in the world" protestors in the meanwhile where putting bandanas over there mouths and setting things alight, throwing stones and smashing shop windows. It felt like Gaza during the war.

    They where aggressive with protestors when the time called for it, when they where trying to smash the ranks of the police, and i doubt you can use the fact the police where in gear and the protestors where not as an indication of the metropolitan forces barbarianism. As Bullet posted earlier, there where incidents where protestors got hold of police uniform. Got knows what they would have done had they have got access to weapons the way they intended too.
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    Re: Man dies during G20 protests in London

    So who is responsible for this mans death? The person who assaulted him or the protesters?

    Video of police assault on Ian Tomlinson, who died at G20 protest | UK news | guardian.co.uk
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    Re: Man dies during G20 protests in London

    When it comes to this kind of protest, there are going to be so many volatile emotions on all sides. I do think that the police are treated to too readily shut down a relatively peaceful demonstration due to singular incidents, and this is a policy that needs to change. Unless there are signs that a riot is going to start any moment, there is no excuse for disbanding everyone on the guise of violence when only one person has fallen down.

    In Canada a few years ago, during the G8 summit, an agent provocateur was actually caught red handed by one of the organizers of the protest. The organizer saw a man with a mask heading towards the front of the protest with a rock, and chased him, ripping his mask off. He was a member of the RCMP who was instructed to cause a violent incident that would give the riot officers justification to fire tear gas. This incident was highly embarrasing for the Canadian Government and shed light on this worldwide practice. Most of the developed nations do this to suppress demonstrations.

    In this case, I think the guy genuinely did have a heart attack, and the crowd assumed the worst. The police have too much power in general but in this case you can't really blame the police. The guy passed out and the crowd over reacted.

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    Re: Man dies during G20 protests in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    When it comes to this kind of protest, there are going to be so many volatile emotions on all sides. I do think that the police are treated to too readily shut down a relatively peaceful demonstration due to singular incidents, and this is a policy that needs to change. Unless there are signs that a riot is going to start any moment, there is no excuse for disbanding everyone on the guise of violence when only one person has fallen down.

    In Canada a few years ago, during the G8 summit, an agent provocateur was actually caught red handed by one of the organizers of the protest. The organizer saw a man with a mask heading towards the front of the protest with a rock, and chased him, ripping his mask off. He was a member of the RCMP who was instructed to cause a violent incident that would give the riot officers justification to fire tear gas. This incident was highly embarrasing for the Canadian Government and shed light on this worldwide practice. Most of the developed nations do this to suppress demonstrations.

    In this case, I think the guy genuinely did have a heart attack, and the crowd assumed the worst. The police have too much power in general but in this case you can't really blame the police. The guy passed out and the crowd over reacted.
    So then police violently shoving the man to the ground didn't cause his heart attack to fire off? Maybe it was the walking then.
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    Re: Man dies during G20 protests in London

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    So then police violently shoving the man to the ground didn't cause his heart attack to fire off? Maybe it was the walking then.
    There's no way to know if his heart attack was already impending or not when he was shoved to the ground. Frankly, if you have a heart condition you shouldn't be at a massive protest. It's an intense place to be even for healthy people.

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    Re: Man dies during G20 protests in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    There's no way to know if his heart attack was already impending or not when he was shoved to the ground. Frankly, if you have a heart condition you shouldn't be at a massive protest. It's an intense place to be even for healthy people.
    Kinda hard when the protest is in between you and your work and you are walking home from work. Like this man was.
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    Re: Man dies during G20 protests in London

    The policeman pushed him over he got back up and later had a heart attack.
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