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    Re: PROMISES, PROMISES: Obama tax pledge up in smoke

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    You're reaching. In CONTEXT Obama was talking about not raising people's taxes at the federal and state/local levels on income, hence the distinction of salary levels.
    His words:

    "I can make a firm pledge," he said in Dover, N.H., on Sept. 12. "Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes."

    He repeatedly vowed "you will not see any of your taxes increase one single dime."
    No reach at all.

    Thus, my statement stands.
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    Re: PROMISES, PROMISES: Obama tax pledge up in smoke

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Again, he is speaking of income taxes which is why he is calling out salary levels specifically. There are no other taxes that can be controlled based on income level.
    Your sig:

    When the facts change, I change my mind...
    Obviously, you don't.

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    Re: PROMISES, PROMISES: Obama tax pledge up in smoke

    Quote Originally Posted by Triad View Post
    Get used to that.
    Next 4 years we'll be seeing alot of "well technically..."
    Yes. The Obamanistas will do whatever they can to defend Him.
    This threat is proof positive.

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    Re: PROMISES, PROMISES: Obama tax pledge up in smoke

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Also, as far as I know, smoking cigarettes is still a choice.
    Irrelevant.

    The types of taxes that, I believe, Obama was discussing during his campaign, are not, and are of a completely different type. This isn't even very convincing .
    "I can make a firm pledge," he said in Dover, N.H., on Sept. 12. "Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes."

    He repeatedly vowed "you will not see any of your taxes increase one single dime."
    ANY of your taxes.
    Please provide for me the stipulation within the term "any" that excludes taxes on tobacco.

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    Re: PROMISES, PROMISES: Obama tax pledge up in smoke

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    ANY of your taxes.
    Please provide for me the stipulation within the term "any" that excludes taxes on tobacco.
    Any doofus knows that he was talking about income taxes. But hey whine, cry, and throw a tantrum for all I care.

    Maybe if you shed a tear some conservative may care. The rest of us don't.

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    Re: PROMISES, PROMISES: Obama tax pledge up in smoke

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Any doofus knows that he was talking about income taxes. But hey whine, cry, and throw a tantrum for all I care.

    Maybe if you shed a tear some conservative may care. The rest of us don't.
    Do you think people like Goobie genuinely believe what they're saying? Or are they just using an excuse to say negative things about Obama. Either way...*yawn*

    It's going to be a long 4 (and hopefully 8) years for them. Bwahahahhahahahaha

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    Re: PROMISES, PROMISES: Obama tax pledge up in smoke

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Also, as far as I know, smoking cigarettes is still a choice. The types of taxes that, I believe, Obama was discussing during his campaign, are not, and are of a completely different type. This isn't even very convincing .
    Given your take on addiction, isn't this an amazing bit of doublespeak?

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    Re: PROMISES, PROMISES: Obama tax pledge up in smoke

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Any doofus knows that he was talking about income taxes.
    ANY. Look up the definition.
    You dont have to admit it to anyone else, but you should admit it to yourself.

    Maybe if you shed a tear some conservative may care. The rest of us don't.
    It does not surprise me in the least that you do not care about The Obama saying whatever He needed to say to get elected, and that His actions represent no "change" whatseover from the typical liberal politician.

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    Re: PROMISES, PROMISES: Obama tax pledge up in smoke

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Do you think people like Goobie genuinely believe what they're saying? Or are they just using an excuse to say negative things about Obama. Either way...*yawn*
    As I said:
    It does not surprise me in the least that you do not care about The Obama saying whatever He needed to say to get elected, and that His actions represent no "change" whatseover from the typical liberal politician.

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    Re: PROMISES, PROMISES: Obama tax pledge up in smoke

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    PROMISES, PROMISES: Obama tax pledge up in smoke

    Another example of a liberal politician lying to the people in order to get elected.

    Some "change".
    No, he is making a "change" instead of just strait up taxing the poor he's doing it the round about way.

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