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    Re: PROMISES, PROMISES: Obama tax pledge up in smoke

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    You're reaching. In CONTEXT Obama was talking about not raising people's taxes at the federal and state/local levels on income, hence the distinction of salary levels.
    No, he's not reaching:

    YouTube - Barack Obama: "I will NOT raise taxes. Period!"

    That's very simple language, but go ahead and try to spin it anyways.
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    Re: PROMISES, PROMISES: Obama tax pledge up in smoke

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHurt View Post
    No, he's not reaching:

    YouTube - Barack Obama: "I will NOT raise taxes. Period!"

    That's very simple language, but go ahead and try to spin it anyways.
    Again, he is speaking of income taxes which is why he is calling out salary levels specifically. There are no other taxes that can be controlled based on income level.
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    Re: PROMISES, PROMISES: Obama tax pledge up in smoke

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Again, he is speaking of income taxes which is why he is calling out salary levels specifically. There are no other taxes that can be controlled based on income level.
    I disagree with regressive taxes like this and I I agree with gibberish too.

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    Re: PROMISES, PROMISES: Obama tax pledge up in smoke

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Again, he is speaking of income taxes which is why he is calling out salary levels specifically. There are no other taxes that can be controlled based on income level.
    I agree that that's probably what he was referring to for the most part, but...

    "Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes."
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    Re: PROMISES, PROMISES: Obama tax pledge up in smoke

    "Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes."
    Obama is a liar.

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    Re: PROMISES, PROMISES: Obama tax pledge up in smoke

    Quote Originally Posted by Dix View Post
    Obama is a liar.
    Wow what a contribute.

    Care to elaborate how or just make one liners to be dismissed?

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    Re: PROMISES, PROMISES: Obama tax pledge up in smoke

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Wow what a contribute.

    Care to elaborate how or just make one liners to be dismissed?
    It's right there in my post. His words vs. his actions (see: the subject of this thread).
    He lied. You disagree?

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    Re: PROMISES, PROMISES: Obama tax pledge up in smoke

    Quote Originally Posted by Dix View Post
    It's right there in my post. His words vs. his actions (see: the subject of this thread).
    He lied. You disagree?
    Yes I do disagree, he hasn't lied, he said he would do that some time in his presidency, not in two months.

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    Re: PROMISES, PROMISES: Obama tax pledge up in smoke

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I agree that that's probably what he was referring to for the most part, but...
    I guess I just don't see income, business, and other mandatory taxes the same as opt-in on commodity taxes such as cigarette, alcohol, and gambling. You choose to pay the latter taxes.
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    Re: PROMISES, PROMISES: Obama tax pledge up in smoke

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