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Mired in violence, gun-strict Mexico points to U.S.

I'd say a State Department report qualifies.

I'm sure -you- would. :roll:

What state department report? I dont see any reference to such a thing in the story.
 
And if they weren't buying them here, it'd be from some other place. The issue here is not that Mexican cartels are getting their guns from the US, it's that the Mexican Cartels are easily able to circumvent the Mexican Gun control laws, while law abiding citizens cannot.

By disarming the populous, they only serve to strengthen the cartels.

Are you suggesting that if the general populace were armed some how the problem of gun violence would be cured? How would this work? Would the general pop form vigilante gangs?
 
I'm sure -you- would. :roll:

What state department report? I dont see any reference to such a thing in the story.

It was in my post that YOU replied to.
 
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Who said that?

From the story:

"It is necessary to reduce the sale of weapons, particularly of high-power weapons, in the United States," President Felipe Calderón said during a visit to Britain on Monday

"You've got guys driving around with high-powered firearms in their cars; you're putting law enforcers at greater risk," said Ladd Everett, a spokesman for the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence. "Why not stop those guns from ever being bought in the first place?"

Last week, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said she would like to see the U.S. government reinstate the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban, though she added that such a move would face fierce opposition in Congress
 
From the story:

"It is necessary to reduce the sale of weapons, particularly of high-power weapons, in the United States," President Felipe Calderón said during a visit to Britain on Monday

"You've got guys driving around with high-powered firearms in their cars; you're putting law enforcers at greater risk," said Ladd Everett, a spokesman for the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence. "Why not stop those guns from ever being bought in the first place?"

Last week, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said she would like to see the U.S. government reinstate the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban, though she added that such a move would face fierce opposition in Congress

Okay fair enough.
 
It was in my post the YOU replied to.
Ah.
It doesnt change what I said.
It is up to those making the claim to support the claim, and it is up to the press to verify those claims (and that support).
 
Ah.
It doesnt change what I said.
It is up to those making the claim to support the claim, and it is up to the press to verify those claims (and that support).

Yes gobbie man you are always right and a wonderment in your own mind:roll:
 
About calling the media amateurs?
No, the one you responded to:
It is up to those making the claim to support the claim, and it is up to the press to verify those claims (and that support).
How am I wrong?

If the press doesnt do this, then 'amatuers' is putting it nicely.
 
And if they weren't buying them here, it'd be from some other place. The issue here is not that Mexican cartels are getting their guns from the US, it's that the Mexican Cartels are easily able to circumvent the Mexican Gun control laws, while law abiding citizens cannot.

By disarming the populous, they only serve to strengthen the cartels.

In regards to Winston, and yourself.

Could you please enlighten me as to where I can buy LEGAL FULL AUTO or SELECT FIRE weapons in this country?

Please, I've got my savings account waiting.. I'll buy up a bunch of them right now. :roll:
 
Are you suggesting that if the general populace were armed some how the problem of gun violence would be cured? How would this work? Would the general pop form vigilante gangs?
Wouldn't need vigilante gangs, just a few citizens able to shoot back when the drug lords send their executioners.

Although CNN's ratings would probably love a good gun battle between Arellano Felix and the considerably larger population of Tijuana.

"Peace through superior firepower!";)
 
No, the one you responded to:
It is up to those making the claim to support the claim, and it is up to the press to verify those claims (and that support).
How am I wrong?

If the press doesnt do this, then 'amatuers' is putting it nicely.

There is a source the US State Department. If you have evidence contrary please supply it.
 
In regards to Winston, and yourself.

Could you please enlighten me as to where I can buy LEGAL FULL AUTO or SELECT FIRE weapons in this country?

Please, I've got my savings account waiting.. I'll buy up a bunch of them right now. :roll:





You need an FFL3 and you are restricted to weapons manufactured before the 86 mg ban
 
Wouldn't need vigilante gangs, just a few citizens able to shoot back when the drug lords send their executioners.

Although CNN's ratings would probably love a good gun battle between Arellano Felix and the considerably larger population of Tijuana.

"Peace through superior firepower!";)

Well since the cartels are already not scared of the Mexican authorities I doubt a few armed citizens will have an impact.
 
There is a source the US State Department. If you have evidence contrary please supply it.
I see that you arent going to actually address what I said.
I'll accept that as a concession of the point. Thanks.
 
I see that you arent going to actually address what I said.
I'll accept that as a concession of the point. Thanks.

There is a source so they are not amateurs.
 
From the story:

"It is necessary to reduce the sale of weapons, particularly of high-power weapons, in the United States," President Felipe Calderón said during a visit to Britain on Monday

"You've got guys driving around with high-powered firearms in their cars; you're putting law enforcers at greater risk," said Ladd Everett, a spokesman for the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence. "Why not stop those guns from ever being bought in the first place?"

Last week, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said she would like to see the U.S. government reinstate the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban, though she added that such a move would face fierce opposition in Congress

Just wondering if winston noticed this answer to his question...
 
Well since the cartels are already not scared of the Mexican authorities I doubt a few armed citizens will have an impact.
Oh, a few armed citizens is far more terrifying than regular army. That's been proven time and again throughout history, and in particular throughout Mexican history.

Regular army you can see coming, and they make such nice targets--assuming they can't be bribed first. Regular folk are everywhere and blend in so well they are harder to pick off; additionally, since they presumably don't like the cartels, the efficacy of bribery is greatly diminished.
 
You need an FFL3 and you are restricted to weapons manufactured before the 86 mg ban

lul I know this, it seems others aren't very educated in the matter as they continue to prove everytime they post about us citizens buying select fire weapons and sending them to mexico. :roll:
 
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