Page 2 of 9 FirstFirst 1234 ... LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 84

Thread: Beyond AIG: A Bill to let Big Government Set Your Salary

  1. #11
    Banned
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Naperville, IL
    Last Seen
    09-24-12 @ 02:14 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    11,963

    Re: Beyond AIG: A bill to let Big Government set your salary

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    www.washingtonexaminer.com >> Politics



    What's the purpose of this?
    [/b]


    Scared yet Comrades?
    If companies take our money, Government not only has a right, but they have an obligation to oversee how its spent. Once they restructure,get their ducks in order, and start paying back the money, then the restrictions come off.

    This is not socialism. It's a de-facto bankruptcy based on an economic equation--if the the demise of company xyz would result in the loss of employment for 1million persons, then government can step in a hopefully stave off an economic meltdown which result in massive poverty, crime.

    Get a dictionary and look up socialism and marxism. Then loan it to Glen Beck and Sean Hannity.

  2. #12
    Banned
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Los Angeles
    Last Seen
    09-22-10 @ 04:36 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    11,430

    Re: Beyond AIG: A bill to let Big Government set your salary

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    It's a de-facto bankruptcy based on an economic equation--if the the demise of company xyz would result in the loss of employment for 1million persons, then government can step in a hopefully stave off an economic meltdown which result in massive poverty, crime.
    It can?

    Funny, the Constitution doesn't allow the government to do that. The Constitution says the Congress shall pass laws regulating bankruptcy. Read Article 1, Section 8.

    It doesn't say the Congress can play games with the public treasury to prevent their friends from going bankrupt. And by the Tenth Amendment, that means the federal government can't do that.

  3. #13
    Sage
    Renae's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    San Antonio Texas
    Last Seen
    10-23-17 @ 10:14 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    38,972
    Blog Entries
    15

    Re: Beyond AIG: A bill to let Big Government set your salary

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    If companies take our money, Government not only has a right, but they have an obligation to oversee how its spent. Once they restructure,get their ducks in order, and start paying back the money, then the restrictions come off.

    This is not socialism. It's a de-facto bankruptcy based on an economic equation--if the the demise of company xyz would result in the loss of employment for 1million persons, then government can step in a hopefully stave off an economic meltdown which result in massive poverty, crime.

    Get a dictionary and look up socialism and marxism. Then loan it to Glen Beck and Sean Hannity.
    How about you look up the Constitution and explain where the US Government is deriving this power from? I can't seem to find it... can you?

    Bush will go down in History as the President that did some good things, did a few dumb things... and was hated for all the wrong reasons. He opened Pandora's Box, and now the Dems are holding it upside down and shaking everything out...

    And people like you blindly cheer it on.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



  4. #14
    Tavern Bartender
    Constitutionalist
    American's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Virginia
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 12:03 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    76,301

    Re: Beyond AIG: A bill to let Big Government set your salary

    You know I would like to hear from the liberals who voted for these oath breakers who are now running Congress. People like Barney Frank are practically communist, based on this latest ploy. Please defend this, I think we all need to hear the logic.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
    "Fly-over" country voted, and The Donald is now POTUS.

  5. #15
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Tiamat's better half
    Last Seen
    10-28-11 @ 01:41 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    15,998

    Re: Beyond AIG: A Bill to let Big Government Set Your Salary

    Moderator's Warning:
    Beyond AIG: A Bill to let Big Government Set Your Salary Threads merged.

  6. #16
    Student
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Last Seen
    05-25-09 @ 11:04 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    277

    Re: Beyond AIG: A bill to let Big Government set your salary

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    How about you look up the Constitution and explain where the US Government is deriving this power from? I can't seem to find it... can you?

    Bush will go down in History as the President that did some good things, did a few dumb things... and was hated for all the wrong reasons. He opened Pandora's Box, and now the Dems are holding it upside down and shaking everything out...

    And people like you blindly cheer it on.
    Article I, the general-welfare/commerce clause. It's written broadly enough to justify anything. Your beef is with Madison and Hamilton -- good capitalists.

  7. #17
    Student
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Last Seen
    05-25-09 @ 11:04 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    277

    Re: Beyond AIG: A bill to let Big Government set your salary

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    If they can keep the uniongoons currently wrecking GM for the Messiah from seeing it, it has a good chance of passing.
    Union goons? LOL. It was management which wrecked the Big Three. They had thirty freakin' years to build cars that could compete with Toyota and refused to do it.

  8. #18
    Tavern Bartender
    Constitutionalist
    American's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Virginia
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 12:03 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    76,301

    Re: Beyond AIG: A bill to let Big Government set your salary

    Quote Originally Posted by HelloDollyLlama View Post
    Union goons? LOL. It was management which wrecked the Big Three. They had thirty freakin' years to build cars that could compete with Toyota and refused to do it.
    With a 40% wage anchor dragging them down, it's hard to compete.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
    "Fly-over" country voted, and The Donald is now POTUS.

  9. #19
    Educator BulletWounD's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last Seen
    02-17-11 @ 09:06 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    984

    Re: Beyond AIG: A bill to let Big Government set your salary

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    With a 40% wage anchor dragging them down, it's hard to compete.
    It's a combination of things. Unions, management (especially in the case of GM), and the generally high cost of labor in the US. The way it's supposed to work now is labor should be getting cheaper and some clever entrepreneurs should be able to take the risk, raise some capital, and start a new business based on fresh ideas. If anything the government should be offering grants to start-ups. Instead we subsidize failure and reward bloated and inefficient businesses.

    We've known about this for at least a decade.

    I read an article by a guy in Japan where he blamed Japan's problem on a lack of entrepreneurial spirit. That's exactly what's wrong with our country. We're unwilling to take risks and cease opportunities. Perhaps a little failure is the best way to foster this spirit.
    Last edited by BulletWounD; 04-01-09 at 09:34 AM.

  10. #20
    Sage
    Renae's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    San Antonio Texas
    Last Seen
    10-23-17 @ 10:14 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    38,972
    Blog Entries
    15

    Re: Beyond AIG: A bill to let Big Government set your salary

    Quote Originally Posted by BulletWounD View Post
    It's a combination of things. Unions, management (especially in the case of GM), and the generally high cost of labor in the US. The way it's supposed to work now is labor should be getting cheaper and some clever entrepreneurs should be able to take the risk, raise some capital, and start a new business based on fresh ideas. If anything the government should be offering grants to start-ups. Instead we subsidize failure and reward bloated and inefficient businesses.

    We've known about this for at least a decade.

    I read an article by a guy in Japan where he blamed Japan's problem on a lack of entrepreneurial spirit. That's exactly what's wrong with our country. We're unwilling to take risks and cease opportunities. Perhaps a little failure is the best way to foster this spirit.
    This is the Obama Change, you can only hope for success(with government support of course), and failure is too painful to consider.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



Page 2 of 9 FirstFirst 1234 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •