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    Re: China marks 50 years of direct control over Tibet

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    The Chinese invasion of Tibet was illegal. The Soviet invasion of Afghanistan was also illegal.
    These are both completely irrelevant.

    Now, do you honestly think the Dalai Lama and his followers is going to morph into a...repressive regime...?
    Most petit-bourgeois/bourgeois "democratic" liberation movements don't succeed without some sort of repression and betrayal of the base on which they relied to get there. So yes, I do think that they will "morph into a...repressive regime".
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    Re: China marks 50 years of direct control over Tibet

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
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    More and more I'm starting to doubt the whole Dalai Lama thing. I mean. Yes. China is a very oppressive country has shown it's willingness to use force in Tibet to quell any kind of uprising but at the same time what was Tibet like before China took over? All I've read about Tibet post-Communist China seems to infer that it was a religious monarchy with an entire population devoted to the servitude of a bunch of monks that kept banning foreigners from entering Tibet. Not that much different from what China is currently doing. If you ask me Tibet really hasn't changed that much. Only difference is a different guy in management. Free Tibet. Yes. But why? So that they can go back to what they were before which isn't that much different from what they are now?
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    Re: China marks 50 years of direct control over Tibet

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    These are both completely irrelevant.
    In what way is the invasion of both countries being illegal irrelevant?


    Most petit-bourgeois/bourgeois "democratic" liberation movements don't succeed without some sort of repression and betrayal of the base on which they relied to get there. So yes, I do think that they will "morph into a...repressive regime".
    And the current regime isn't repressive? So, you think alien repression is better than the POSSIBLITY of home grown repression?
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    Re: China marks 50 years of direct control over Tibet

    In what way is the invasion of both countries being illegal irrelevant?
    Because it has nothing to do with the point I was making?

    And the current regime isn't repressive?
    Yes, it is repressive.

    So, you think alien repression is better than the POSSIBLITY of home grown repression?
    No, I think that both are equally unsupportable.

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    Re: China marks 50 years of direct control over Tibet

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    Buying into Chinese propoganda, eh?
    Which would be what exactly? Did Tibet not on many occasions keep expelling foreigners? In the 1850s Tibet banned all foreigners from going into the country. Then before that the Capuchins and Jesuits. Before that Christian missionaries. So what exactly am I 'buying into'? Tibet's long and I'm sure 'proud' history of expelling foreigners? They only turned to the West and the very foreign community they expelled when they were pimp slapped by the Chinese a few times. Tibet has no history of democracy or even close. Let us remember that the Dalai Lama was not only the religious but political leader of Tibet. To this day he's still regarded as such. The calls for 'democracy' are the standard for any deposed political leader. Saying that he wants to return to lead a country wouldn't get him much sympathy.
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    Re: China marks 50 years of direct control over Tibet

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Which would be what exactly? Did Tibet not on many occasions keep expelling foreigners? In the 1850s Tibet banned all foreigners from going into the country. Then before that the Capuchins and Jesuits. Before that Christian missionaries. So what exactly am I 'buying into'? Tibet's long and I'm sure 'proud' history of expelling foreigners? They only turned to the West and the very foreign community they expelled when they were pimp slapped by the Chinese a few times. Tibet has no history of democracy or even close. Let us remember that the Dalai Lama was not only the religious but political leader of Tibet. To this day he's still regarded as such. The calls for 'democracy' are the standard for any deposed political leader. Saying that he wants to return to lead a country wouldn't get him much sympathy.
    Screw "democracy." Democracy is a means to an end - preserving liberty and justice. It may or may not be the best way of doing so. I'd rather live as a feudal serf under the rule of Bhuddist monks than as a peasant under the racist and oppressive CCP. The Dalai Lama considers himself a "Bhuddist Marxist." Obviously, he's confused Marxism with communism, but ya know what? Communism might have made a nice fit for the small agrarian society in Tibet. The CCP has screwed that up with their "Cultural Revolution," mass migrations and forced "modernization."

    Check this article out.

    March 28 is the day that the regime celebrates “Memorial Day of Liberating Millions of Serfs in Tibet.” Beijing has intensified its criticism of the Dalai Lama and “old Tibet.” Tibetan writer Ms. Tsering Woeser commented that these media reports and articles are only propaganda to demonize Tibet.
    It may or may not be completely accurate, but there are a lot of good points.

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