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    Re: Gordon Brown pledges to end 'discrimination' in Royal succession

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    So, it is ok to leave in place an outdated, BIGOTED law? It needs to go.
    I'm sorry Ludahai, but priorities.
    Catholics can wait until the PM is not so busy with this downturn can they not? They have waited hundreds of years no?

    And i must say, i want this abolished after William is on the throne.


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    Re: Gordon Brown pledges to end 'discrimination' in Royal succession

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Not good enough?





    Patience :P
    Meh, Kate Middleton is okay I suppose. Prince Philip will have a fit coz shes a commoner lol lol. Don't think it will last.

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    Re: Gordon Brown pledges to end 'discrimination' in Royal succession

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I'm sorry Ludahai, but priorities.
    Catholics can wait until the PM is not so busy with this downturn can they not? They have waited hundreds of years no?

    And i must say, i want this abolished after William is on the throne.
    I get the feeling that Elizabeth will outlive her son. Perhaps she has found the eternal serum or something and won't share it with anyone.

    I think that governments should focus LESS on the SYMPTOMS of the downturn and attack the CAUSES. This would waste far less time. It should not take so much time and effort to rid the Act of Settlement of its bigoted elements. Even the very language in the Act (using "papist" rather than "Catholic) is a bigoted epithet on par with using "Mohammedean" which was once common parlance for Muslim. Also, you should note it ONLY applies to Catholics. Were William to marry a Muslim, that would be ok - but a Catholic, and he would lose his right to inherit the throne. That is bigoted.
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    Re: Gordon Brown pledges to end 'discrimination' in Royal succession

    Quote Originally Posted by GarzaUK View Post
    Meh, Kate Middleton is okay I suppose. Prince Philip will have a fit coz shes a commoner lol lol. Don't think it will last.

    Look on the brightside, if/when Prince charles is King he can't give his crappy opinions out in public, the monarch is forbidden to, lest that undermine the democratic system.
    Charles has a ability to not know when to keep his trap shut.
    He has already compromised his position as future king as we know his political views and opinions, he ought to abdicate on that basis alone. Let alone his 'baggage'

    Oh that racist can go choke on his pipe. I hate Philip. He'll probably drive Kate to her death too, perhaps Diana wasn't enough .... ~:P


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    Re: Gordon Brown pledges to end 'discrimination' in Royal succession

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Also, you should note it ONLY applies to Catholics. Were William to marry a Muslim, that would be ok - but a Catholic, and he would lose his right to inherit the throne. That is bigoted.
    A muslim will never sit on the throne.
    Anyone who is not Protestant will not sit on the throne.
    Anyone who is not part of the elite club will not sit on the throne.
    Anyone who is Non white etc ...

    Common knowledge


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    Re: Gordon Brown pledges to end 'discrimination' in Royal succession

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    A muslim will never sit on the throne.
    Anyone who is not Protestant will not sit on the throne.
    Anyone who is not part of the elite club will not sit on the throne.
    Anyone who is Non white etc ...

    Common knowledge
    But you can't even MARRY a Catholic and sit on the throne. Lest we remember that Henry VIII formed his own church was so he could get an annulment? The English-speaking world has been bigoted against Catholics for centuries. While this wouldn't end it, it would be a very important symbolic statement that such bigoty is waning.
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    Re: Gordon Brown pledges to end 'discrimination' in Royal succession

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    But you can't even MARRY a Catholic and sit on the throne. Lest we remember that Henry VIII formed his own church was so he could get an annulment? The English-speaking world has been bigoted against Catholics for centuries. While this wouldn't end it, it would be a very important symbolic statement that such bigoty is waning.
    What bigotry inside England? We have little against Catholics.

    Well i happen to think Henry unbeknown to him did something great. The catholic church was too powerful


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    Re: Gordon Brown pledges to end 'discrimination' in Royal succession

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    Nice to see a move to reverse the anti-Catholic bigotry that has been rife in English-speaking countries for centuries. It is only a step, but a welcome one.
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    Re: Gordon Brown pledges to end 'discrimination' in Royal succession

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    What bigotry inside England? We have little against Catholics.

    Well i happen to think Henry unbeknown to him did something great. The catholic church was too powerful
    I said in the English-speaking world - and there is definately bigotry against Catholics in England (as there is in the USA) though in both cases it is not nearly as pronounced as it once was.

    The Act of Settlement of 1701 is still a symbol of the bigotry that was once rife in England and it needs to be eliminated.

    As for the power of the Catholic Church, that is and was always overstated. Rome never had much power over England and the unifying force of the Church provided significant benefits to Europes during the darkest parts of its post-Roman history.
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    Re: Gordon Brown pledges to end 'discrimination' in Royal succession

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    I think it's time England had a black queen.
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