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    Re: Terror inmates may be released in US: intel chief

    U.S. citizen or not, I would rather a guilty man go free than an innocent man be imprisoned. The chance that a terrorist could be among them is a chance we have to take. We don't detain people indefinitely on suspicion with no evidence. Of course war time is different, but if we're at war (which we aren't) then they are POWs and subject to Geneva protections. Otherwise they should be innocent until proven guilty - you know, one of the basic human rights we stand for. We cannot let terrorists terrorize us into becoming a country of fascists willing to disregard basic human rights out of fear.

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    Re: Terror inmates may be released in US: intel chief

    Quote Originally Posted by binary_digit View Post
    u.s. Citizen or not, i would rather a guilty man go free than an innocent man be imprisoned. The chance that a terrorist could be among them is a chance we have to take. We don't detain people indefinitely on suspicion with no evidence. Of course war time is different, but if we're at war (which we aren't) then they are pows and subject to geneva protections. Otherwise they should be innocent until proven guilty - you know, one of the basic human rights we stand for. We cannot let terrorists terrorize us into becoming a country of fascists willing to disregard basic human rights out of fear.
    but it's for the safety of the american people!
    George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to win the war with Britain... He shot them.

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    Re: Terror inmates may be released in US: intel chief

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenb View Post
    but it's for the safety of the american people!
    Safety and liberty don't have to be mutually exclusive.

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    Re: Terror inmates may be released in US: intel chief

    Quote Originally Posted by Binary_Digit View Post
    Safety and liberty don't have to be mutually exclusive.
    Tell that to Zimmer
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    Re: Terror inmates may be released in US: intel chief

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Tell that to Zimmer
    Tell that to all the foaming mouth conservatives.

    ****, tell that to all the "coddle" them to the death liberals as well.
    George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to win the war with Britain... He shot them.

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    Re: Terror inmates may be released in US: intel chief

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenb View Post
    Tell that to all the foaming mouth conservatives.

    ****, tell that to all the "coddle" them to the death liberals as well.
    Amen, brother. Keep preaching the Good Word.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Tell that to Zimmer
    The Chinese folks they want to release were picked up at a Terror training camp working with the Jihadists. Aligned with Jihadists.

    Our problem is their case is fuzzy. They are sympathetic to Jihdists, they would be neutralized in China, and nobody wants to take them.
    Albania took 5... now the remainder "ain't got no home".

    I don't see these folks as a "safe" bet... and the same goes for everyone else.

    If you like them so much, then why not have your community offer to take one or two or 17 in your neighborhood.
    Put signs out on your lawn; campaign for them to come to your hood.
    Speak with your neighbors, and the local politicians... get them all excited about your potentially new neighbors.

    Tell them you want them all and you want them now.
    For the good of the country.
    Because it is the safe and wise thing to do.
    Because the EU will love America again.
    ... use any and all nutty, illogical ideas... but please... take them on your street.

    Then tell me about "safety and liberty" being mutually exclusive.
    Tell me how much your neighbors will love you.
    Respect you.
    Think you are so loving and compassionate.
    Such a brilliant mind to have terrorists on your street.

    Won't... you be... my neighbor? Ahmed Wang?

    Perhaps you'd like criminal sex offenders too... and tell me about safety and liberty being mutually exclusive.

    When they are in your community, don't ask for more policing funds, don't come whining about the fear in the community.

    They're just a bunch of terrorists picked up at a training camp.

    Don't worry... be nervous.

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    Re: Terror inmates may be released in US: intel chief

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    The Chinese folks they want to release were picked up at a Terror training camp working with the Jihadists. Aligned with Jihadists.

    Our problem is their case is fuzzy. They are sympathetic to Jihdists, they would be neutralized in China, and nobody wants to take them.
    Albania took 5... now the remainder "ain't got no home".

    I don't see these folks as a "safe" bet... and the same goes for everyone else.

    If you like them so much, then why not have your community offer to take one or two or 17 in your neighborhood.
    Put signs out on your lawn; campaign for them to come to your hood.
    Speak with your neighbors, and the local politicians... get them all excited about your potentially new neighbors.

    Tell them you want them all and you want them now.
    For the good of the country.
    Because it is the safe and wise thing to do.
    Because the EU will love America again.
    ... use any and all nutty, illogical ideas... but please... take them on your street.

    Then tell me about "safety and liberty" being mutually exclusive.
    Tell me how much your neighbors will love you.
    Respect you.
    Think you are so loving and compassionate.
    Such a brilliant mind to have terrorists on your street.

    Won't... you be... my neighbor? Ahmed Wang?

    Perhaps you'd like criminal sex offenders too... and tell me about safety and liberty being mutually exclusive.

    When they are in your community, don't ask for more policing funds, don't come whining about the fear in the community.

    They're just a bunch of terrorists picked up at a training camp.

    Don't worry... be nervous.

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    Umm this is complete bollocks. The US gov has already recognised they are not terrorists nor ever have been. They were in camps after fleeing Chinese oppression, where there may have been some undesirables. That is all. Their treatment I'm afraid is outrageous.
    "It is written in the eternal constitution that men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." - Edmund Burke

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    Re: Terror inmates may be released in US: intel chief

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Well good for him. Do you think they will be releasing these "terror suspects" on the unknowing populace if they think they are a hazard?
    Considering this administration has ignored what has worked in the past to right the economy... and keep Americans safe... I wouldn't put it past this crew to release hazardous material into the environment.

    A walking Bio and Personal safety hazard.

    It's a common Lib practice.

    In Germany they release terror murderers, Clinton pardoned terrorist murderers, Obama befriends two terror supporters.

    Libs have been hostile to America, the troops and the intel services for decades.

    Looking at history... I wouldn't put ANYTHING past Libs.
    The Collective in Office is The American Marxist/Chamberlain Alliance.
    Full of Czars and folks more equal than others (tax cheats).

    They're irrational, dangerous... and for these reasons should never be entrusted with power... but we have a merry band of Marxists in office now...
    let's see what the loons do.

    My bet is they will do something stupid. It's their nature.. it is their... history.

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    Last edited by zimmer; 04-04-09 at 06:27 AM.
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    Re: Terror inmates may be released in US: intel chief

    While I wouldn't mind one of these people living next to me, I hope and pray they put one next to Zimmer.

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