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    Re: House GOP releases budget blueprint

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    This is still more reactionary crap dressed up as an idea.
    This is still more partisan crap dressed up as a post.

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    Re: House GOP releases budget blueprint

    For those who are interested, the document can be found at: http://www.gop.gov/solutions/budget/...very-final.pdf

    Unfortunately, the document does not provide much detail in terms of numbers and critical assumptions. At the same time, it has not been scored by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO).

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    Re: House GOP releases budget blueprint

    it's just the same tax-cut mantra, there's nothing new there.
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: House GOP releases budget blueprint

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    I think they need to do much better than this. I am extremely dissappointed in the content, or lack thereof, in this document as a whole.

    Seriously, can anyone honestly say that there's anything in this document that isn't completely obvious to anyone who hasn't been asleep for 20 years?

    If they want a shot at being taken seriously, they are going to need facts, extensive analysis with reliable numbers, and MUCH stronger logic as to WHY this will work better than what Obama is proposing. Don't get me wrong - I'm reserving judgment on the spending and am not sure it's the right decision, but you'll need a better argument than this to convince me it's the WRONG decision.

    I agree with some of the assertions in this document, but it's far too generalized to be of much use for anything other than a primer for the uninformed.
    Did you read the article?

    This is a preliminary blue print, not the entire plan. They plan on coming out with the specifics of the plan in some days. Its much the same as how the current budget plan came out.

    Its a smart political move. There is a lot of talk about the budget right now, and its pretty much just had one side to address. Get your blue print, essentially a preview, out as soon as possible and then put out your entire thing. Just make sure you get it out within a week after the blue print which it seems they're aiming to do.

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    Re: House GOP releases budget blueprint

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    They plan on coming out with the specifics of the plan in some days. Its much the same as how the current budget plan came out.

    Its a smart political move. There is a lot of talk about the budget right now, and its pretty much just had one side to address. Get your blue print, essentially a preview, out as soon as possible and then put out your entire thing. Just make sure you get it out within a week after the blue print which it seems they're aiming to do.
    I'll be very interested in the details. Hopefully, the GOP will get its budget document scored by the CBO so that one can make credible comparisons on the numbers with the Obama budget.

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    Re: House GOP releases budget blueprint

    If they're going to have a 10% tax bracket up to 100k, I think the marginal rate above 100k is going to have to be pretty high to remain revenue neutral (or close to it).
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    Re: House GOP releases budget blueprint

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Did you read the article?

    This is a preliminary blue print, not the entire plan. They plan on coming out with the specifics of the plan in some days. Its much the same as how the current budget plan came out.

    Its a smart political move. There is a lot of talk about the budget right now, and its pretty much just had one side to address. Get your blue print, essentially a preview, out as soon as possible and then put out your entire thing. Just make sure you get it out within a week after the blue print which it seems they're aiming to do.
    Yes, I read it. And I also read this article:

    GOP leader on budget: 'Here it is, Mr. President' - CNN.com

    (CNN) -- House Republicans on Thursday said they have come up with an alternative proposal to the president's budget, following criticism from Democrats that they have become the "party of no."

    Rep. John Boehner says President Obama's budget is "completely irresponsible."

    "Two nights ago the president said, 'We haven't seen a budget yet out of Republicans.' Well, it's just not true because -- Here it is, Mr. President," said House Minority leader Rep. John Boehner, as he held up a booklet that he said was a "blueprint for where we're going."
    I'll wait and see if there's any meat to their proposal before deciding, but they shouldn't have made such bold statements about it before presenting their real data, IMO.
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    Re: House GOP releases budget blueprint

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Most don't believe that SS or Medicare constitutes welfare but they are.

    Reason being is that benefits have increased while payroll deductions haven't in any real way.

    Couple that with all the refundable tax credits and deductions, thus SS and Medicare have become welfare.

    The money was never saved and it was spent a long time ago on the people about to retire.
    Cool. I just wanted to make sure we were on the same page in regard to SS & Med being welfare.

    Personally, I think it all starts with revamping Civil Service employment policies.

    The whole notion of guaranteed job security only breeds complacency and inefficiency.

    Knowing that you can lose your job for poor performance is the basis for efficiency, competiton and innovation in the workplace.

    With that said, it's time to turn these departments over to the private sector.

    It'll be painful at first, and probably require a small increase in funding.

    SS will become a legitimate 401k for the less fortunate, and essentially a supplemental plan for those with private accounts. The private sector will manage it better and yield better returns, which should be rolled back into the system, instead of being skimmed off the top and squandered away like it is in it's current form.

    Remove the SS tax. It's our money, it's there to provide income in the years in which we're not all able to perform at a level we once did.

    Medicare & Medicaid along with our current private sector are in dire need of tort reform.

    We can't continue with bogus lawsuits everytime someone gets a hangnail.

    The high costs of medical malpractice insurance is surely keeping some of the best and brightest from entering the medical profession.

    IMO, once this is addressed, then M&M will have a chance to succeed, and possibly show a profit if turned over to the private sector as well.
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    Re: House GOP releases budget blueprint

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHurt View Post
    Cool. I just wanted to make sure we were on the same page in regard to SS & Med being welfare.

    Personally, I think it all starts with revamping Civil Service employment policies.

    The whole notion of guaranteed job security only breeds complacency and inefficiency.

    Knowing that you can lose your job for poor performance is the basis for efficiency, competiton and innovation in the workplace.

    With that said, it's time to turn these departments over to the private sector.

    It'll be painful at first, and probably require a small increase in funding.

    SS will become a legitimate 401k for the less fortunate, and essentially a supplemental plan for those with private accounts. The private sector will manage it better and yield better returns, which should be rolled back into the system, instead of being skimmed off the top and squandered away like it is in it's current form.

    Remove the SS tax. It's our money, it's there to provide income in the years in which we're not all able to perform at a level we once did.

    Medicare & Medicaid along with our current private sector are in dire need of tort reform.

    We can't continue with bogus lawsuits everytime someone gets a hangnail.

    The high costs of medical malpractice insurance is surely keeping some of the best and brightest from entering the medical profession.

    IMO, once this is addressed, then M&M will have a chance to succeed, and possibly show a profit if turned over to the private sector as well.
    IMO Medicare and Medicaid need to be completely scraped.

    They are a big part of what is causing health care prices to rise.

    Social Security needs to be completely scraped, the nut jobs in Washington have proven that they can't keep their hands out of the cookie jar.
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    Re: House GOP releases budget blueprint

    lets look at one of their extraordinarily pathetic charts (oh excuse me, I meant blue print):



    Yes, that was seriously released by the Republicans. Avoiding for a second that if I or any other professional gave a client something that crap I'd be laughed out of the pitch, lets just conduct an analysis.

    So what's it saying?

    Step 1: Reform (actually "Reforms", good job on the typo) medicare and medicaid.

    Step 2: Universal access to affordable healthcare

    Step 3: Collect Underpants

    Step 4: Profit!

    This is pathetic.

    Dear Republican Party,

    I am available for all your graphic design needs. I don't suck, as whoever you're employing currently does. I cannot help you with the ****tiness of your content, but I can present it in a coherent manner (at least as coherent as its general incoherence allows).
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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