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    Re: Council uses spy plane with thermal imaging camera to snoop on homes wasting ener

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    This is FUNNY....people complaining because others are getting a FREE thermal imaging exam of your home so you know where the leaks are.
    I know a guy who has a business doing the same thing, but he charges a fee to come out and take the pics. The equipment is very expensive, or was when he started the business a few years back....
    What is funnier is you suggesting that this obvious invasion of privacy is a joke.

    I see you cannot see the difference between councils ordering this to enforce their idiotic global warming agendas on law abiding citizens and an individual contracting to have a thermal image done to improve his house.

    How trite and amusing. It’s almost as amusing as NextEra’s thread jacking commentary that this is somehow the same as law enforcement initiatives to catch people growing illegal drugs in their homes.

    It is obvious neither of you actually “get it” and instead want to hijack a relevant thread with nonsense.

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    Re: Council uses spy plane with thermal imaging camera to snoop on homes wasting ener

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Making posts that don't include any meaningful argument does not count as "energy conservation."
    This makes no sense and again you avoid the thread topic with silly statements. Did you have a point?

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    Re: Council uses spy plane with thermal imaging camera to snoop on homes wasting ener

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Your article doesn't support the thoughts expressed above which are nothing more than rants.

    They do require a warrant. This case argues that they need to obtain a warrant to do the heat surveillance in advance even though I am amused that the 9th Circus agreed that they did not.

    There is a vast difference between surveillance to identify law breakers and the warrants used to do such surveillance and councils in England using them to cite law abiding homeowners for energy wasting.

    NextEra is doing nothing more than his typical thread jack with his typical “I hate Amerika” rants which of course are NOT supported by facts or events.
    Yes, by pointing out the FACT, they can do these scans without a warrant means I hate America.

    Truth Detector you are a partisan hack at best and a fascist at worst. You and your ilk are the ones that truly hate America.

    Anyone that doesn't agree with you, you label them as America Haters while you get all your cues from Rush Limbaugh like a good Rushbot.

    You should rename yourself to Lie Spreader is more like it, because you aren't interested in the truth, that is FACT.

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    Re: Council uses spy plane with thermal imaging camera to snoop on homes wasting ener

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    This does not support the false assertions that NextEra made.






    Your article doesn't support the thoughts expressed above which are nothing more than rants.

    They do require a warrant. This case argues that they need to obtain a warrant to do the heat surveillance in advance even though I am amused that the 9th Circus agreed that they did not.
    Nope, they used records of energy use to obtain said warrant to peek into someone's house, if I'm using more energy it is not surveillance in the true sense as using electricity is still a legitimate action, now, if they had other reasonable cause such as whistleblowers or something concrete, then there would be a warrantable cause.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Council uses spy plane with thermal imaging camera to snoop on homes wasting ener

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Yes, by pointing out the FACT, they can do these scans without a warrant means I hate America.

    Truth Detector you are a partisan hack at best and a fascist at worst. You and your ilk are the ones that truly hate America.

    Anyone that doesn't agree with you, you label them as America Haters while you get all your cues from Rush Limbaugh like a good Rushbot.

    You should rename yourself to Lie Spreader is more like it, because you aren't interested in the truth, that is FACT.
    Your schoolyard insults aside, what a fascinating little rant; yet they cannot do this without warrants so your diatribe was just that, a diatribe wanting the facts.

    Now I am still amused that you think that legal surveillance for illegal substances by law enforcement is anything connected to the thread topic. I am still waiting to see how you can connect the LEGAL surveillance to Government spying on law abiding citizens in their homes for "environmental" reasons.

    Carry on; you are a tiresome "Amerika" hater.

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    Re: Council uses spy plane with thermal imaging camera to snoop on homes wasting ener

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    Nope, they used records of energy use to obtain said warrant to peek into someone's house, if I'm using more energy it is not surveillance in the true sense as using electricity is still a legitimate action, now, if they had other reasonable cause such as whistleblowers or something concrete, then there would be a warrantable cause.
    What part of requirement of obtaining a warrant do you NOT comprehend? Do you think the DEA can "kick your door in" whenever it wants as NextEra stated?

    How is his diatribe in any way connected to the thread topic? Last time I looked, this was about Government spying on LAW ABIDING citizens to cite them for energy wasting, not the legitimate law enforcement to catch pot growers operating OUTSIDE of our laws using WARRANTS to do their job.

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    Re: Council uses spy plane with thermal imaging camera to snoop on homes wasting ener

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Your schoolyard insults aside, what a fascinating little rant; yet they cannot do this without warrants so your diatribe was just that, a diatribe wanting the facts.

    Now I am still amused that you think that legal surveillance for illegal substances by law enforcement is anything connected to the thread topic. I am still waiting to see how you can connect the LEGAL surveillance to Government spying on law abiding citizens in their homes for "environmental" reasons.

    Carry on; you are a tiresome "Amerika" hater.
    If you cannot see how they are linked, that is your problem, not mine.

    You are a tiresome liar and partisan hack.

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    Re: Council uses spy plane with thermal imaging camera to snoop on homes wasting ener

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    If you cannot see how they are linked, that is your problem, not mine.

    You are a tiresome liar and partisan hack.
    Your insults aside, I clearly illustrated that the two are totally unrelated and have asked you to support your FALSE assertions about the DEA kicking down our doors at will with some facts.

    Instead you choose to go into an insulting diatribe and avoid the obvious.

    I would like to see where I have been lying or partisan in this thread; please show me where.

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    Re: Council uses spy plane with thermal imaging camera to snoop on homes wasting ener

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    I would like to see where I have been lying or partisan in this thread; please show me where.
    Calling me an America Hater. You're welcome liar.

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    Re: Council uses spy plane with thermal imaging camera to snoop on homes wasting ener

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Calling me an America Hater. You're welcome liar.
    That is an OPINION of your commentaries not a statement in fact. I would not know if you ACTUALLY hated America. That would require your tacit admission and honest input which I am inclined to believe you are incapable of. My statements about your "rants" suggest that they do indeed have an anti-American bent and suggesting otherwise only makes you appear more hysterical.

    Based upon your thread hysterics my statements appear to ring true and have hit a sore spot with you:

    ...his typical thread jack with his typical “I hate Amerika” rants which of course are NOT supported by facts or events.

    Again, there is nothing "partisan" or a "lie" in my statements particularly in this thread; rather this is more of your theatrical hysterics trying to divert attention from the FACT that you cannot defend your original false and dramatic “hate Amerika” rhetoric.

    Carry on.

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