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    Re: Clinton: US shares blame for Mexican drug wars

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    Does any of that involve illegal activity and/or injecting/ingesting foreign substances into your body?
    Holy circular logic, Batman! "Drugs are illegal because you're ingesting illegal substances into your body."

    The point he is making is that you put yourself at serious risk performing those extreme activities. Just like putting your life in danger while doing drugs. It's a personal decision. It's my body, not the government. The government has no right to tell me what I can or cannot do to my own body. I am not infringing upon the rights of another by taking drugs.
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    Re: Clinton: US shares blame for Mexican drug wars

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    Does any of that involve illegal activity and/or injecting/ingesting foreign substances into your body?
    Does it matter?? Why do the rules only apply if it is injected/ingested??

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    Re: Clinton: US shares blame for Mexican drug wars

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    Does it matter?? Why do the rules only apply if it is injected/ingested??
    Because Big Brother says so.
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    Re: Clinton: US shares blame for Mexican drug wars

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Holy circular logic, Batman! "Drugs are illegal because you're ingesting illegal substances into your body."



    The point he is making is that you put yourself at serious risk performing those extreme activities. Just like putting your life in danger while doing drugs. It's a personal decision. It's my body, not the government. The government has no right to tell me what I can or cannot do to my own body. I am not infringing upon the rights of another by taking drugs.
    Ok we are comparing smoking a fattie or injecting heroin to sports now.


    Whats that event at the olympics now?

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    The hundred meter butterfly, smoke a fat one then a typing test.

    Winner takes the gold!

    Drugs are illegal because your judgement goes out the window.

    There is a difference between working to better yourself and getting falling down drunk.
    What skill are you developing killing your brain cells?

    50 Things That Kill Brain Cells


    You are doing worse than infringing on others...You lost your judgement and no one can predict what you could do once your brain is out to lunch. Get behind a wheel, gun or knife becomes available. Anything goes.
    Last edited by akyron; 04-02-09 at 01:30 AM.
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    Re: Clinton: US shares blame for Mexican drug wars

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    Drugs are illegal because your judgement goes out the window.
    Drugs aren't illegal, they're illicit. Drugs are bad because they impair your health and judgment. Drugs became illicit because of lies and racism. Drugs remain illicit because people have their heads up their ass.

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    Re: Clinton: US shares blame for Mexican drug wars

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    Drugs are illegal because your judgement goes out the window.
    So alcohol, vicodin and oxycotin are illegal as well?

    There is a difference between working to better yourself and getting falling down drunk.
    What skill are you developing killing your brain cells?

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    Who said anyone was developing a skill? What skill are you developing when you watch SpongeBob? Or when people drink alcohol? Or watch porn?


    You are doing worse than infringing on others...You lost your judgement and no one can predict what you could do once your brain is out to lunch. Get behind a wheel, gun or knife becomes available. Anything goes.
    That's a bold statement. Please back it up.
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    Re: Clinton: US shares blame for Mexican drug wars

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    Ok we are comparing smoking a fattie or injecting heroin to sports now.
    No we are comparing risk taking behaviors to risk taking behaviors..


    Drugs are illegal because your judgement goes out the window.
    Alcohol sure as hell impairs your judgment. How about some consistency. a mixed hypocritical message just encourages people to not respect the laws.

    If this is the basis for outlawing things, then I guess we need to outlaw a lot of carnival rides too. Those make me dizzy, really screws with my judgment.

    There is a difference between working to better yourself and getting falling down drunk.
    There is a difference between working to better myself and taking a nap too.

    What skill are you developing killing your brain cells?

    50 Things That Kill Brain Cells
    hmm, that's it we need to outlaw junk food, stress, rapid head shaking, and negative thinking, since those are all on the list too.


    You are doing worse than infringing on others...You lost your judgement and no one can predict what you could do once your brain is out to lunch. Get behind a wheel, gun or knife becomes available. Anything goes.
    Alcohol? that is about the most impairing substance out there, and has a huge amount of culpability here.

    How about a factually and logic based argument that shows that prohibition is doing more good for society than legalization would instead of emotional appeals, and opinion??
    Last edited by marduc; 04-02-09 at 12:47 PM.

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    Re: Clinton: US shares blame for Mexican drug wars

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    That's right Hillary, blame the users for the very problems that politicians like you have caused with your prohibitionist policies. Ignore the reality that these wars and violent drug cartels exist because of the War on Drugs, not in spite of it. Case in point: How many violent alcohol gangs are there? Have you ever heard of a violent tobacco cartel? Is anyone fighting any caffeine wars? No. But the significance of that fact is completely lost on prohibitionists like Hillary. No, it's the users who are at fault for the violence that follows illicit drugs. It couldn't possibly have anything to do with dogmatic policies that send the trade into the black market and have clearly been shown to be a failure both in the past as well as for the last 30 years.
    The US does share the blame. The War on Drugs definitely fuels this. The greed of the federal government for money and power has definitely added fuel for the fire. You're right here, the correct answer would have been to legalize some drugs, regulate others, and prohibit the really bad stuff (especially designer drugs, probably not the best of ideas to let the pharmaceutical companies into the whole drug trade thing).
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    Re: Clinton: US shares blame for Mexican drug wars

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    Drugs are illegal because your judgement goes out the window.

    There is a difference between working to better yourself and getting falling down drunk.
    What skill are you developing killing your brain cells?
    So anything that doesn't develop a skill should be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron
    You are doing worse than infringing on others...You lost your judgement and no one can predict what you could do once your brain is out to lunch. Get behind a wheel, gun or knife becomes available. Anything goes.
    That sounds like a good reason to make it illegal to drive while intoxicated or to carry/use a firearm while intoxicated. It's a pretty dubious reason to make drugs illegal.
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    Re: Clinton: US shares blame for Mexican drug wars

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    So alcohol, vicodin and oxycotin are illegal as well?
    They are most certainly regulated and improper distribution or use is illegal.

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Who said anyone was developing a skill? What skill are you developing when you watch SpongeBob? Or when people drink alcohol? Or watch porn?
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    By comparing officially recognized sporting events to illegal judgement impairing drug use you did.

    Sense of humor. Regulated.Regulated.

    How are you comparing injecting heroin to watching Spongbob? Are you saying they are comparatively unhealthy for you? I am sure this could be debated on some level but the mere physical aspects of drugs probably outweighs by far any permanent mental bruise one might have suffered by a cartoon. Bomb on a turban or otherwise.

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    That's a bold statement. Please back it up.
    Some common mental disorders related to drug use

    Drug withdrawal (292.0);

    Drug-induced paranoia (292.11);

    Drug-induced hallucinations (292.12);

    Drug-induced delirium (292.81);

    Drug-induced persisting dementia (292.82);

    Drug-induced persisting amnestic disorder (292.83);

    Drug-induced mood disorder (eg, depression; 282.84);

    Drug-induced sleep disorder (eg, insomnia; 292.85);

    Drug-induced anxiety disorder (292.89); and

    Drug-induced sexual dysfunction (292.89).
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