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    Re: Obama Scraps 'Global War on Terror' for 'Overseas Contingency Operation'

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Iraqi.....innocent civilians.....killed by.....American troops and private contractors.
    You hadn't heard?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FD1j...x=0&playnext=1
    This video is slightly disturbing if they are in fact killing civilians.
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    Re: Obama Scraps 'Global War on Terror' for 'Overseas Contingency Operation'

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    The "War on Terror" was an idiotic name from the very beginning. The name was used as a further play on post-9/11 nationalism to ensure that funding for the military operations against terror groups would continue...which I have no problem with. But the name is ridiculous because it denotes a war against an intangible enemy. You can't "kill" terrorism, you can shoot it, you can't bomb it. But...who is going to argue to cut funding against something as ominous as a "war on terror?" As has already been pointed out, it's as stupid as "the war on drugs." Intellectually it's a dishonest marketing ploy. There is plenty of merit in combating terrorist groups, you don't need a philosophically inaccurate title to describe it. There have been numerous discussions on calling our operations a "war on terror."

    This is just an attempt to discredit Obama as weak or pandering to the liberals because nobody in this thread has articulated any level of change in operational capability or scope. The difference here is recognizes how moronic the term was and he's changing it.

    The day he actually actually suspends our operations against our enemies in a way that jeopardizes this nations security I'll take some of your opinions on this topic seriously. Until then, I'll continue looking at the fact that he's enhancing our combat capabilities in Afghanistan, actively trying to with Pakistan to combat Al Qaeda and the Taliban, and increasing security at our southern border.
    Don't forget the War on Poverty. That one is dumb too.
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    Re: Obama Scraps 'Global War on Terror' for 'Overseas Contingency Operation'

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I think its pretty clear that the WoT is an effort against terrorism and a fight against terrorists. No one is really confused by the title.


    He SHOULD have just adjusted it a little, calling it the "war against terrorism".
    It's a ridiculous title that was thrown down right after 9/11 in order to galvanize popular support for our operations against various terror organizations. But it's intellectually misleading because you can't actually wage a war against a religious or political strategy or idealism.

    I'm glad he's scrapping it because it was a stupid title. Like I said, you come back when you can articulate how he's actually putting our national security at risk.
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    Re: Obama Scraps 'Global War on Terror' for 'Overseas Contingency Operation'

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    Don't forget the War on Poverty. That one is dumb too.
    It was, I'll agree. Remember how stupid the "War on Christmas" campaign was?
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    Re: Obama Scraps 'Global War on Terror' for 'Overseas Contingency Operation'

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    It's a ridiculous title that was thrown down right after 9/11 in order to galvanize popular support for our operations against various terror organizations. But it's intellectually misleading because you can't actually wage a war against a religious or political strategy or idealism.
    Like I said:
    I think its pretty clear that the WoT is an effort against terrorism and a fight against terrorists. No one is really confused by the title.

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    Re: Obama Scraps 'Global War on Terror' for 'Overseas Contingency Operation'

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Like I said:
    I think its pretty clear that the WoT is an effort against terrorism and a fight against terrorists. No one is really confused by the title.
    It is called a "War on Terror". You can never win a war on terror until all terror is eliminated in the world. All of it. That is why it is not only confusing, but laughable.
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    Re: Obama Scraps 'Global War on Terror' for 'Overseas Contingency Operation'

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    It is called a "War on Terror". You can never win a war on terror until all terror is eliminated in the world. All of it. That is why it is not only confusing, but laughable.
    OK, again:
    I think its pretty clear that the WoT is an effort against terrorism and a fight against terrorists. No one is really confused by the title.

    I'm really not sure why there is so much difficulty understanding this.

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    Re: Obama Scraps 'Global War on Terror' for 'Overseas Contingency Operation'

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    OK, again:
    I think its pretty clear that the WoT is an effort against terrorism and a fight against terrorists. No one is really confused by the title.

    I'm really not sure why there is so much difficulty understanding this.
    Is it called the "War on Terrorism and Terrorists"? Even so, it's a highly unattainable goal. There will always be terrorists performing acts of terrorism.
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    Re: Obama Scraps 'Global War on Terror' for 'Overseas Contingency Operation'

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Is it called the "War on Terrorism and Terrorists"?
    You are being obtuse. I hope it is deliberate.

    Even so, it's a highly unattainable goal.
    Does that invalidate the effort?

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    Re: Obama Scraps 'Global War on Terror' for 'Overseas Contingency Operation'

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    You are being obtuse. I hope it is deliberate.


    Does that invalidate the effort?
    The point I am making is that the "War on Terror" is a terrible name. It sounds endless and futile.
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