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    Specter changes mind on Employee Free Choice Act

    Good to see that Specter is coming back to his senses. The EFCA is the most anti-union legislation I have see to date

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    Re: Specter changes mind on Employee Free Choice Act

    If I understand the card check right, does that mean the ballots are open,meaning anyone knows how you voted? I would think such a thing could lead to intimidation tactics.
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    Re: Specter changes mind on Employee Free Choice Act

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    If I understand the card check right, does that mean the ballots are open,meaning anyone knows how you voted? I would think such a thing could lead to intimidation tactics.
    Exactly, this is one of the core ideas behind it thats why I hate it so much.
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    Re: Specter changes mind on Employee Free Choice Act

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Exactly, this is one of the core ideas behind it thats why I hate it so much.
    And you can of course prove this? Any links?
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    Re: Specter changes mind on Employee Free Choice Act

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    And you can of course prove this? Any links?
    That is what the bill is about.

    They are trying to end the secret ballot.
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    Re: Specter changes mind on Employee Free Choice Act

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    And you can of course prove this? Any links?
    From the link posted in the OP:

    Republicans have rallied against the bill in near-unanimity since it was first introduced during the 110th Congress, charging that it would cripple businesses and completely undermine the secret ballot process.

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    Re: Specter changes mind on Employee Free Choice Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    That is what the bill is about.

    They are trying to end the secret ballot.
    Are you sure? Again do you have a link or something that proves it?

    From what I have read, it is not ending the secret ballot by any means. What it does do is make it easier for employees to ask to have the ballot to vote for or against having a union. Now that is not ending the secret ballot by any means.

    I also understand why the right are against such measures as it would make it easier for the American worker to unionise a workplace, something companies are against of course.

    But what are the facts and what is right wing fiction? As I see it, there is so much disinformation out there about it that it is bordering on ridiculous, misinformation lead by CNBC and Fox News and the right wing blogsphere, all who have a political grind against unions and anything remotely employee beneficial (unless it is bankers and financial people of course).
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    Re: Specter changes mind on Employee Free Choice Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    From the link posted in the OP:
    Sorry but that says nothing other than "SHOCK" the Republican's are against something that benefits unions.
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    Re: Specter changes mind on Employee Free Choice Act

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Are you sure? Again do you have a link or something that proves it?

    From what I have read, it is not ending the secret ballot by any means. What it does do is make it easier for employees to ask to have the ballot to vote for or against having a union. Now that is not ending the secret ballot by any means.

    I also understand why the right are against such measures as it would make it easier for the American worker to unionise a workplace, something companies are against of course.

    But what are the facts and what is right wing fiction? As I see it, there is so much disinformation out there about it that it is bordering on ridiculous, misinformation lead by CNBC and Fox News and the right wing blogsphere, all who have a political grind against unions and anything remotely employee beneficial (unless it is bankers and financial people of course).
    The current law is already balanced. The bill seeks to disturb that balance.


    Employee Free Choice Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    In order for a workplace to organize under current U.S. labor law, the card check process begins when an employee requests blank cards from an existing union, and requests signatures on the cards from his colleagues.[3] Once 30% of the work force has signed the cards, the employer may decide to hold a secret ballot election on the question of unionization.[3] In practice, the results of the card check are not presented to the employer until 50 or 60% of employees have signed the cards to help ensure winning the election.[3] If the majority of votes favor the union, the National Labor Relations Board will certify it as the exclusive representative of the employees for the purpose of collective bargaining.

    If enacted, EFCA would require the NLRB to certify the union as the bargaining representative without directing an election if a majority of the bargaining unit employees signed cards;[1] however, employees may still request a secret ballot election if 30% of employees petition for one.[3]
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    Re: Specter changes mind on Employee Free Choice Act

    The EFCA does not end the secret ballot, it offers it as a choice. The AFLCIO endorses this act, Republicans are against it because they are anti-union, they are using the "secret ballot" argument as an excuse to oppose the legislation.

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