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    Re: White House and the RIAA

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I'm actually trained as a visual artist. Copyright laws are there to protect my income ...
    Actually, it was meant to protect your ability to control the use of the work - profit or nonprofit uses alike, not gaurentee a revenue source. This mindset (regarding this being the purpose of copyright), with all due respect, and in my own opinion, is what lead to the ability of giant corporations and powerful lobbyists to completely screw with the laws / take copyright far away from what it was supposed to be about.
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    Re: White House and the RIAA

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I wonder how many people made mix tapes or sat there there with a radio tape recorded and recorded their favorite songs off the radio?
    The RIAA was the topic of research for a college course I took several years back.

    Watching old band interviews revealed the true hypocrisy in all of this. I can't tell you how many had nonchalantly talked about how in their early years they couldn't wait for a new album release, they'd pool their money to buy it, then tape it.

    The epitome of it all though, I did a search for some lyrics of a current pop star, the result of the search was that I could purchase the lyrics and sheet music.

    Truly a sad day indeed.
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    Re: White House and the RIAA

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    so if I can hack into your bank account and take your money then I shouldn't be punished. Afterall the internet was developed to share.
    Internet file sharing and hacking into a bank account to steal money are apples & oranges.

    Good to see you have no grasp of analogies.

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    ever heard of "fair-use". Apparently not.
    Fair Use Act? I laugh in your face. That's a US law.

    Maybe you've heard of the World Wide Web.

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    how is your privacy being violated by being sued?
    The methods by which they collect their data to bring about the suits.

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    So its the companys problem when people violate the law?
    That's why we put locks on our doors, to protect us from people who violate laws.

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    So if I steal your car then its OK because you should have done better to protect it?
    I never said it's OK to steal. You've reached that conclusion on your own.

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    You are ignorant to intellectual property rights and laws. Educate yourself on IP laws and why they exist before giving an opinion on things which you know nothing about.
    I'll express my opinion on any and all subject matter that interests me.

    You on the other hand, can either read my opinions, or choose not too.

    Really, it's that simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHurt View Post
    The RIAA was the topic of research for a college course I took several years back.

    Watching old band interviews revealed the true hypocrisy in all of this. I can't tell you how many had nonchalantly talked about how in their early years they couldn't wait for a new album release, they'd pool their money to buy it, then tape it.
    . Your logic: It wasn't a "big deal" back then to businesses so I can't fathom why its a "big deal" now.

    The epitome of it all though, I did a search for some lyrics of a current pop star, the result of the search was that I could purchase the lyrics and sheet music.

    Truly a sad day indeed.
    Why is that?
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    Re: White House and the RIAA

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    . Your logic: It wasn't a "big deal" back then to businesses so I can't fathom why its a "big deal" now.
    If you'd actually do some research instead of bindly stumbling around here, you might glean some knowledge on the subject.

    Metallica is one example of a band who copied music from vinyl to tape, and are also one of the leading critics of copyright infringement/file sharing.

    Thus the hypocrisy.

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    . Why is that?
    Back in the day, albums would sometimes contain posters, stickers, music lyrics and a host of other goodies, included in the original purchase price of the record.
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    Re: White House and the RIAA

    The recording industry is quickly dying and it's exactly why they have to promote silly scare tactics like this. I'm honestly ashamed that the White House is backing them up on this crap. They should just let them crumble under the weight of their own mediocrity.

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    Re: White House and the RIAA

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHurt View Post
    Internet file sharing and hacking into a bank account to steal money are apples & oranges.

    Good to see you have no grasp of analogies.



    Fair Use Act? I laugh in your face. That's a US law.

    Maybe you've heard of the World Wide Web.



    The methods by which they collect their data to bring about the suits.



    That's why we put locks on our doors, to protect us from people who violate laws.



    I never said it's OK to steal. You've reached that conclusion on your own.



    I'll express my opinion on any and all subject matter that interests me.

    You on the other hand, can either read my opinions, or choose not too.

    Really, it's that simple.
    All you have is silly anecdotal statements. You can't explain your stance on the matter because you are ignorant to what Intellectual Property is and WHY there are laws protecting it.

    You can opin to your hearts content but incompetence renders worthless opinions.
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    Re: White House and the RIAA

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHurt View Post
    Metallica is one example of a band who copied music from vinyl to tape, and are also one of the leading critics of copyright infringement/file sharing.

    Thus the hypocrisy.
    So what? There's no law against being a hypocrite.



    Back in the day, albums would sometimes contain posters, stickers, music lyrics and a host of other goodies, included in the original purchase price of the record.
    You are being nostalgic.
    Do you have a point?
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    Re: White House and the RIAA

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    All you have is silly anecdotal statements. You can't explain your stance on the matter because you are ignorant to what Intellectual Property is and WHY there are laws protecting it.
    No, just simply crushing your bizarre attempts at analogy and pointing out that US law doesn't have to be reconized by the international community, just because you want it to.

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    You can opin to your hearts content but incompetence renders worthless opinions.
    As yours is clearly demonstrated in your feeble attempts here.

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    So what? There's no law against being a hypocrite.
    Hmmm, you asked:
    Originally Posted by scourge99
    . Your logic: It wasn't a "big deal" back then to businesses so I can't fathom why its a "big deal" now.
    I replied:

    Originally Posted by GottaHurt
    If you'd actually do some research instead of bindly stumbling around here, you might glean some knowledge on the subject.

    Metallica is one example of a band who copied music from vinyl to tape, and are also one of the leading critics of copyright infringement/file sharing.

    Thus the hypocrisy.
    You have no valid arguments here as you stumble your way through this thread. Instead you make up arguments that don't exist.

    I never said hypocrisy was against the law.

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    You are being nostalgic.
    Do you have a point?
    Wow, more dodging. You asked I answered.

    Move along now. You have no argument here, just conjecture, bizarre analogies and throwing around intellectual propoerty rights/laws that you've not used to substantiate any of your drivel with.
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    Re: White House and the RIAA

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHurt View Post
    pointing out that US law doesn't have to be reconized by the international community, just because you want it to.
    I never said it did. This is about domestic abuses of IP and how the RIAA plans on handeling it with the help of the US gov't. Perhaps you missed that?

    You have no valid arguments here as you stumble your way through this thread. Instead you make up arguments that don't exist.
    you don't even have an argument to address. You have an opinion: file sharing is OK. And you have examples of things you don't like.

    Do you know what anecdotal evidence is? That's all you have.

    I never said hypocrisy was against the law.
    then who gives a damn if Metallica is full of hypocrites? You are the one who thought hypocrisy of Metallica was some kind of support for your opinion, not I.

    Why did you even bring it up?

    Move along now. You have no argument here, just conjecture, bizarre analogies and throwing around intellectual propoerty rights/laws that you've not used to substantiate any of your drivel with.
    You don't even have an argument. All you've done is whine about the RIAA suing people, Metallica being hypocritical, and made a non-sequitor about enforcing IP rights overseas.
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