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    Re: White House and the RIAA

    First of all, let's look at the amount...

    150,000 ****** thousand PER SONG!! I know people who would now owe literally MILLIONS in fines now because of this outrageous...punishment! 150,000 per 1000 songs, maybe, but 150,000 per track?

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    Re: White House and the RIAA

    I'd like to see somebody try to justify this outrageous amount.


    The problem of encoding songs, GottaHurt, is that if it can be listened to, it can be recorded. Using line-out, or even recording off the sound card using a program like Audacity renders any encoding or DRM on music useless.
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    Re: White House and the RIAA

    This is another example of whats wrong with our country. People believe they are entitled to a static career, meaning they believe that once they start a career, they expect that career must still be in place when they retire.

    Job progression means a destruction of old, and outdated jobs. There is nothing wrong with that. All this protectionism by the government, of these outdated jobs, stymies our nations progress. I've used this example before. If these retards running our country now, existed back in the early 1900s, we'd still be driving carts and buggys because they couldn't stand the thought of cart and buggy dealers not having a career.

    This music thing is just another example of outdated jobs, clinging to the government for protection.
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    Re: White House and the RIAA

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    This is another example of whats wrong with our country. People believe they are entitled to a static career, meaning they believe that once they start a career, they expect that career must still be in place when they retire.

    Job progression means a destruction of old, and outdated jobs. There is nothing wrong with that. All this protectionism by the government, of these outdated jobs, stymies our nations progress. I've used this example before. If these retards running our country now, existed back in the early 1900s, we'd still be driving carts and buggys because they couldn't stand the thought of cart and buggy dealers not having a career.

    This music thing is just another example of outdated jobs, clinging to the government for protection.
    Being an artist/muscian is an outdated gig? Maybe the business model needs to change.

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    Re: White House and the RIAA

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Being an artist/muscian is an outdated gig? Maybe the business model needs to change.
    I support you being an artist/musician (although I've never seen or heard your work) but how can anyone expect, that once their work is public, that no one will copy it.

    You can't control it once it leaves your hands.

    I might get scalded for this but the artsy jobs are becoming more and more like the herd of people who want to be actors.
    The market is full so don't expect much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I support you being an artist/musician (although I've never seen or heard your work) but how can anyone expect, that once their work is public, that no one will copy it.
    I'm actually trained as a visual artist. Copyright laws are there to protect my income for my efforts and investments as well as intellectual property.

    You can't control it once it leaves your hands.
    So some one can take credit for my work and it is aokay?


    I might get scalded for this but the artsy jobs are becoming more and more like the herd of people who want to be actors.
    The market is full so don't expect much.

    That has always pretty much been true. BTW actors are artists as well.

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    Re: White House and the RIAA

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I'm actually trained as a visual artist. Copyright laws are there to protect my income for my efforts and investments as well as intellectual property.
    I understand completely, but realistically how are you going to control that if 50,000 people run off with a copy not paying you?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    So some one can take credit for my work and it is aokay?
    Not that isn't ok. Since most artists release their works with some sort of reference that shouldn't happen as much.

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    That has always pretty much been true. BTW actors are artists as well.
    Actors are artists? Have you seen "Glitter" or "The Hottie and The Nottie" ?

    Highly debatable.
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    Re: White House and the RIAA

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I understand completely, but realistically how are you going to control that if 50,000 people run off with a copy not paying you?
    That is what the court system is for. Personally I think sueing some kid with a computer is a silly way to go about it though and mostly benefits the lawyers.


    Not that isn't ok. Since most artists release their works with some sort of reference that shouldn't happen as much.

    It happens and has happened to me.


    Actors are artists? Have you seen "Glitter" or "The Hottie and The Nottie" ?

    Highly debatable.

    Oh man Mama Mia sheeeesh that flick was terrible and I was stuck on the airplane for three hours.

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    Re: White House and the RIAA

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHurt View Post
    ...zero per song.

    First, the internet was developed to "share".
    so if I can hack into your bank account and take your money then I shouldn't be punished. Afterall the internet was developed to share.

    Second, ever hear of reel-to-reel, cassette or vcr tapes?
    ever heard of "fair-use". Apparently not.

    The real crime here is the RIAA and the governments violation of right to privacy laws.
    how is your privacy being violated by being sued?

    If they want to protect their music or other forms of media, then encrypt/encode them so they can't be recorded or "shared".
    So its the companys problem when people violate the law? So if I steal your car then its OK because you should have done better to protect it?

    You are ignorant to intellectual property rights and laws. Educate yourself on IP laws and why they exist before giving an opinion on things which you know nothing about.
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    Re: White House and the RIAA

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    That is what the court system is for. Personally I think sueing some kid with a computer is a silly way to go about it though and mostly benefits the lawyers.
    Some of the biggest problems in my view are the length of copyright and how much people charge for their works.

    It used to be (when I was in school for marketing) that a copy right was the life of the author plus 50 years. In my opinion it should be no more than 10 years period.

    Movies, music and to a lesser degree art work is way over priced and the creators in some fields are way over paid. 1 million for a movie, for 1 year of work, give me a break.


    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    It happens and has happened to me.
    Thats not right at all. Even if you had released it from copyright protection that isn't cool.

    Linus Trorvalds still gets props for being the creator of the Linux OS.
    If someone were to try and take credit I would thrash them.

    How can you reasonably protect that though?


    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Oh man Mama Mia sheeeesh that flick was terrible and I was stuck on the airplane for three hours.
    One of the worst movies ever. It was with the real Alien movies so I thought why not... big mistake.

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