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    Re: Fight on border steps up.......

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I wouldn't be for legalizing all drugs but I would not have a problem with legalizing marijuana.

    And I don't understand why states that do want to end marijuana prohibition don't just do it and use their own guards to block DEA raids.
    Well, Mexico has a burgeoning heroin manufacture/trade network, a methamphetamine manufacture/trade network, and a cocaine wholesaling network. What makes you think the growers in Mexico wont just switch to other drugs? These aren't your local stoners.

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    Re: Fight on border steps up.......

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    They have every right to stop the feds from interfering in those rights of the state that are not specifically enumerated as belonging to the fed in the constitution.
    Supremacy clause.

    This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.
    Nothing in the 10th amendment allows a state to stop the fed gvmnt from enforcing federal law.

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    Re: Fight on border steps up.......

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Supremacy clause.



    Nothing in the 10th amendment allows a state to stop the fed gvmnt from enforcing federal law.
    Under a strict interpretation of the Constitution, the Federal Government has no place restricting intrastate trade anyway.

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    Re: Fight on border steps up.......

    Quote Originally Posted by BulletWounD View Post
    Under a strict interpretation of the Constitution, the Federal Government has no place restricting intrastate trade anyway.
    You can argue that all you want, but THAT issue has ben settled for some time.

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    Re: Fight on border steps up.......

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    You can argue that all you want, but THAT issue has ben settled for some time.
    Until it's overturned, as Clarence Thomas alluded to in a relatively recent court case.

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    Re: Fight on border steps up.......

    Quote Originally Posted by BulletWounD View Post
    Under a strict interpretation of the Constitution, the Federal Government has no place restricting intrastate trade anyway.
    Goobie has quite a liberal interpretation of the Constitution and the law in general.

    It's anymore productive arguing with him than it is arguing with any other extreme leftist around here. He might call himself a conservative but he is anything but conservative. He mostly takes a knee-jerk response that he figures will put him in line with Pat Robertson or Anne "the man" Coulter and then makes up his arguments from there.

    Now as to your point, I don't think this even becomes an issue of intrastate trade. It's simply a matter of prohibition not existing in one state versus another. If the feds want to regulate traffic of prohibited material from one state to another, that's fine with me. But the DEA raiding marijuana points of sale in California when the people of California have made it clear that they don't want prohibition of marijuana is a whole different animal.
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    Re: Fight on border steps up.......

    Quote Originally Posted by BulletWounD View Post
    Until it's overturned, as Clarence Thomas alluded to in a relatively recent court case.
    And in any event...
    Nothing in the 10th amendment allows a state to stop the fed gvmnt from enforcing federal law.

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    Re: Fight on border steps up.......

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Goobie has quite a liberal interpretation of the Constitution and the law in general.
    Rather than whining to BW, why dont you just tell me how I am wrong?

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    Re: Fight on border steps up.......

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    Re: Fight on border steps up.......

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Because the states don't have the power to keep the federal government from enforcing federal law?


    EXACTLY!!
    Anyone remember that little piece of history called the Civil War?
    State law CAN NOT supersede Federal law. This was decided in 1865. If states could over ride Federal law then Federal law would carry no weight since a state could simply over ride it.
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