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    Re: Health insurers offer to stop charging sick people more

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Insurers offer to stop charging sick people more



    This is an excellent idea, and is a compromise that I have been encouraging for quite some time. If everyone is required to have health insurance, then there won't be any problem of people waiting until they get sick and then getting insurance at a cheap price. I hope that the Obama Administration will consider this option as an important part of its health care plan.

    It's good to see the insurance companies willing to make this compromise, and I think this bodes well for the future of health insurance in this country.
    Sounds like the insurance industry is scared of UHC to me, and that's why they are making this compromise. UHC is about to drag their bottom line right out from under them. They are worried, and they should be.

    I want to see more compromise than just this. I want to see contracts with no ridiculous loopholes which, at the last second, deprive people of emergency care, long-term care, care for chronic illness, etc. I want the corruption ended, otherwise I will be for UHC in the United States until I see it put into effect.

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    Re: Health insurers offer to stop charging sick people more

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    Sounds like the insurance industry is scared of UHC to me, and that's why they are making this compromise. UHC is about to drag their bottom line right out from under them. They are worried, and they should be.
    The government has a revenue stream and authority that insurance companies don't have.

    The government can force people to pay for other individuals misbehavior using taxation.

    That is an assault on Justice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    I want to see more compromise than just this. I want to see contracts with no ridiculous loopholes which, at the last second, deprive people of emergency care, long-term care, care for chronic illness, etc. I want the corruption ended, otherwise I will be for UHC in the United States until I see it put into effect.
    That is pretty much fiction. Where do you hear this stuff?
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    Re: Health insurers offer to stop charging sick people more

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    And if you choose not to have health insurance and get hit by a bus tomorrow, you're going to expect the taxpayers to foot the bill for your ER care. You might swear up and down that you won't, but you will. People tend to forget political ideology when they're bleeding underneath a bus.

    So instead of making me pay for your health insurance (assuming you're able to afford insurance and are just being irresponsible), I'd rather the government just mandate that you buy it yourself if you can afford it.
    you have a lot of experience bleeding under a bus?

    didn't think so.

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    Re: Health insurers offer to stop charging sick people more

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    I want to see more compromise than just this. I want to see contracts with no ridiculous loopholes which, at the last second, deprive people of emergency care, long-term care, care for chronic illness, etc. I want the corruption ended, otherwise I will be for UHC in the United States until I see it put into effect.
    Is there a system in place anywhere in the world which doesn't deprive some percentage of the population of emergency care, long-term care, or care for chronic illness?

    Is there a system anywhere that is not subject to corruption?


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    Re: Health insurers offer to stop charging sick people more

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    Is there a system in place anywhere in the world which doesn't deprive some percentage of the population of emergency care, long-term care, or care for chronic illness?

    Is there a system anywhere that is not subject to corruption?

    What I mean is... there always seems to be some last minute fine print that deprives people of their care. I have plenty of American friends who have been denied over outrageous claims. The insurance companies are too powerful to sue. You sue them, and they have a defense team of ten lawyers. The only way to curb the corruption is to put the pressure on them, and UHC is doing that.

    I think UHC should be implemented for the simple fact it will iron out the kinks in the corrupt corporate sector and give people better options in private insurance. For instance, in Canada, private insurance co-exists with the public system, and their rates are way more reasonable than in the United States. You also don't hear of people getting screwed over as much. If our UHC disappeared, the corporate sector would run amock. This is the biggest fear of Canadians.

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    Re: Health insurers offer to stop charging sick people more

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Nope. I'd support government programs to teach sex education in impoverished areas, and hand out free condoms. But not forced abortion.
    Just another example of a "pro-choice" liberal that wants to take away choices that he doesn't think people should have.

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    Re: Health insurers offer to stop charging sick people more

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Just another example of a "pro-choice" liberal that wants to take away choices that he doesn't think people should have.
    What part of not forcing people to get abortions is taking away choices?

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    Re: Health insurers offer to stop charging sick people more

    SO requiring by law for you to go out and buy health insurance is the exercise the "right" to have health insurance?


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    Re: Health insurers offer to stop charging sick people more

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    What part of not forcing people to get abortions is taking away choices?
    Under the same argument...
    -He wants to forcibly take away the choice of having insurance.
    -He -doesn't- want to forcibly take away the choice of having a child.
    Thus, my statement.

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    Re: Health insurers offer to stop charging sick people more

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Under the same argument...
    -He wants to forcibly take away the choice of having insurance.
    -He -doesn't- want to forcibly take away the choice of having a child.
    Thus, my statement.
    Abortion and UHC are not the same thing. Being pro-choice with the former doesn't mean you are automatically pro-choice with the latter. What a laughable comparison.

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