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    Re: Marine recruiting station under attack... again

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    Well, they wouldn't want to have to worry about getting their asses kicked.

    Yup, i don't think the marines would like that very much.

    I recall a story a while back when a marine caught a liberal vandalizing his car, because he had a Marines bumper sticker.

    Turns out that that fine guy was a liberal, and tried to sue him for detaining him.
    George W. Bush is a liberal.

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    Re: Marine recruiting station under attack... again

    Quote Originally Posted by SkyCore View Post
    Being paid a wage doesn't mean slavery cannot be present as some slaves and serfs have been paid while enslaved. Also, not all signed contracts are legal so the excuse of "the contract is voluntarily signed!" fails to recognize there is an entire division of the legal world where lawyers and courts focus specifically on the legality of contracts.

    Finally, it's somewhat strange because it seems many who keep screaming "contract" are also the same groups that ignore the fact the Bush admin broke the law with invading iraq. So in one arena, the letter of the contract is paramount, but in a different arena, the legality of contracts are irrelevent.




    Nice another red herring.

    Face it you are wrong. YOu were ignorant of your contract and you want to call all of us who served "slaves" because of stop-loss, when all you had to do was read your contract.


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    Re: Marine recruiting station under attack... again

    Quote Originally Posted by SkyCore View Post
    Being paid a wage doesn't mean slavery cannot be present as some slaves and serfs have been paid while enslaved.

    Did you cheat on your ASVAB test to get in the military,did the military start allowing high school dropouts who haven't even got a good enough diploma(GED) to join the military?


    Also, not all signed contracts are legal so the excuse of "the contract is voluntarily signed!" fails to recognize there is an entire division of the legal world where lawyers and courts focus specifically on the legality of contracts
    Are you trying to argue that a military contract is not legal?
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    Re: Marine recruiting station under attack... again

    Quote Originally Posted by SkyCore View Post
    Can't blame you for saying that. well. Either that or stone up and admit I hold a double standard.
    What you fail to understand that is that even if the person making the point is hypocritical in doing so, that alone does not invalidate the point.

    And so, rather than address the point, you misdirect the conversation towards the supposed hypocrisy.

    If -I- had no way of effectively addressing the heart of the matter, I'd do what you're doing -- using obfuscation and misdirection to change the focus of the discussion.

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    Re: Marine recruiting station under attack... again

    Quote Originally Posted by SkyCore View Post
    Being paid a wage doesn't mean slavery cannot be present as some slaves and serfs have been paid while enslaved. Also, not all signed contracts are legal so the excuse of "the contract is voluntarily signed!" fails to recognize there is an entire division of the legal world where lawyers and courts focus specifically on the legality of contracts.
    Show that the contracts are illegal.

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    Re: Marine recruiting station under attack... again

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Did you cheat on your ASVAB test to get in the military,did the military start allowing high school dropouts who haven't even got a good enough diploma(GED) to join the military?
    Actually, my score was so high I was moved into further testing with some others who excelled as well.


    But thanks for once again showing how the pro-war crowd rely mainly on ad homs. Take those away and you'd probably have about 4 posts per year.



    Are you trying to argue that a military contract is not legal?

    First of all, there are several types of military contracts and the legality of some of them get challenged. Die hard liberals like yourself wouldn't dare challenge the government but thank goodness not everyone serving or who has served is a dyed-in-the-wool Lib.


    "He had already completed in June the eight years he promised to serve in the Oregon National Guard. But the Army told him in October it would reactivate him under its stop-loss rule, sending him for the first time overseas, away from his wife and family."


    "Santiago is one of more than a dozen U.S. soldiers challenging in court the way the administration is using the stop-loss rule. Under federal law, the Pentagon can involuntarily extend the deployment of any reserve officer who's on active duty, if the president believes it's essential to national security."



    JIM KLIMASKI: "That's what the contract says, real clear. Try it for one year, see if you like the Reserves or the National Guard, it fits with your schedule. And if you don't like at the end of one year, you are gone. However, all of those people who signed up under that program discovered that it was a fraud."


    "The policy has been controversial. Republican Sen. John McCain has called it a "backdoor draft" as have many Democrats."
    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/milit...loss_2-24.html

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    Re: Marine recruiting station under attack... again

    Quote Originally Posted by SkyCore View Post
    Actually, my score was so high I was moved into further testing with some others who excelled as well.

    Was that when they gave you your "m16's and nines"?


    But thanks for once again showing how the pro-war crowd rely mainly on ad homs. Take those away and you'd probably have about 4 posts per year.

    Says the guy who name calls and attacks in pretty much 100% of his posts.





    First of all, there are several types of military contracts and the legality of some of them get challenged. Die hard liberals like yourself wouldn't dare challenge the government but thank goodness not everyone serving or who has served is a dyed-in-the-wool Lib.


    "He had already completed in June the eight years he promised to serve in the Oregon National Guard. But the Army told him in October it would reactivate him under its stop-loss rule, sending him for the first time overseas, away from his wife and family."


    "Santiago is one of more than a dozen U.S. soldiers challenging in court the way the administration is using the stop-loss rule. Under federal law, the Pentagon can involuntarily extend the deployment of any reserve officer who's on active duty, if the president believes it's essential to national security."



    JIM KLIMASKI: "That's what the contract says, real clear. Try it for one year, see if you like the Reserves or the National Guard, it fits with your schedule. And if you don't like at the end of one year, you are gone. However, all of those people who signed up under that program discovered that it was a fraud."


    "The policy has been controversial. Republican Sen. John McCain has called it a "backdoor draft" as have many Democrats."
    Online NewsHour: Soldiers Challenge Military's Stop-loss Order -- February 24, 2005



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    Re: Marine recruiting station under attack... again

    Actually, the problem here is one of perception and image. The Marines are doing it all wrong, and are out of date and tacky.

    If you want to recruit in places like Berkeley, Oakland, San Fransisco, and other similar areas, you have to have an updated image.

    Meet the new image:



    The folks at Berkley will now no longer be attacking the recruiting station there. In fact, they will now be tripping over each other to join up. And Uncle Sam can thank me for the advise by sending me money. Hell, this crap is worth a hell of a lot more than advice from stockbrokers and bankers, and look at all the money Uncle Sam gave to them. Now I want my cut.

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    Re: Marine recruiting station under attack... again

    Quote Originally Posted by SkyCore View Post
    First of all, there are several types of military contracts and the legality of some of them get challenged. Die hard liberals like yourself wouldn't dare challenge the government but thank goodness not everyone serving or who has served is a dyed-in-the-wool Lib.
    Please provide an example of any military contract having been declared 'illegal' by someone of relevance.

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    Re: Marine recruiting station under attack... again

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    What you fail to understand that is that even if the person making the point is hypocritical in doing so, that alone does not invalidate the point.

    And so, rather than address the point, you misdirect the conversation towards the supposed hypocrisy.

    If -I- had no way of effectively addressing the heart of the matter, I'd do what you're doing -- using obfuscation and misdirection to change the focus of the discussion.


    Okay. I condemned the vandalism long ago so how am I changing the focus of the discussion? Sometimes I think about more than one issue at a time...is that discouraged here?

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