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    Re: More nutritious food part of government plan

    Quote Originally Posted by StandUpChuck View Post
    IMO that's exactly why Americans are getting so fat (with some exceptions of course). But gov't cannot change that.

    There will still be people with no interest in cooking at the end of the day, and it's easier to nuke a pre-made meal.

    There will still be people unwilling or unable to make breakfast for thier kids, so they let 'em bulk up with hgh sugar cereals (plus too many parents these days would rather be cool than be parents).

    There will always be people who would prefer a sloppy, greasy lunch at the drive through than making a sandwich in the morning and packing a lunch (which BTW is cheaper, but that doesn't seem to matter).

    These people aren't going to buy organic. They're not going to anything to make a meal from wholesome ingredients (organic or not). They're going to teach their kids how to microwave pre-made Kraft Mac n' Cheese rather than give 'em an apple.



    You can have just as sloppy and greasy with organic ingredients as any fast food place.

    Case and point:




    This is my world famous pulled pork sammich.


    Made with:

    Organic locally produced Portugese style roll
    Organic locally procured pork shoulder from a local farm
    Organic locally produced American cheese
    Organic Locally produced Cabbage (slaw)
    Organic ingredients home produced BBQ sauce. There may be a couple spices not local... but that's a secret.


    You ain't losing weight on my sammiches.....
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    Re: More nutritious food part of government plan

    I looooooove pulled pork. That reminds me. I have to put an non-organic corned beef in the crockpot so it can simmer all day.
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    Re: More nutritious food part of government plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    The article nor anyone else has mentioned replacing modern farming.
    You obviously don't understand the terms of that debate.

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    Re: More nutritious food part of government plan

    Quote Originally Posted by StandUpChuck View Post
    I looooooove pulled pork. That reminds me. I have to put an non-organic corned beef in the crockpot so it can simmer all day.



    My pulled pork is legend.


    Oh but wait, Organic Corned beef will help you lose weight!



    You can get great deals on Brisket, (corned beef) right now....
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    Re: More nutritious food part of government plan

    Oh I forgot.


    I also use Organic lump hardwood charcoal from maine (wicked Charcoal) and local harvested hardwood for smoke......



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    Re: More nutritious food part of government plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Oh I forgot.


    I also use Organic lump hardwood charcoal from maine (wicked Charcoal) and local harvested hardwood for smoke......



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    Re: More nutritious food part of government plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Again, incorrect. I can eat non-processed foods, of the non organic variety and have the same results.


    Organic is irrelevant to your argument.



    A blt with local bacon. lettuce and tomato will have the same calories whether organic or not.
    I wasn't actually disagreeing with you, but just correcting something I noticed in your sentence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Revernd_Hellh0und
    However thinking that only eating organics is going to help you lose weight is incorrect.
    We both agreed that it's the type of food you eat, and not whether or not it's organic, is the key to losing weight. The way your sentence was phrased could mean that you can't just eat organics and lose weight, but actually you can, if you eat the right type of organic food.

    That's all I meant

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    Re: More nutritious food part of government plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    How does me buying my brisketts, pork shoulders, ribs, etc, locally and organic and making my BBQ sauce from all locally available organics help with the obesity problem?


    The idea that if you buy local and organic will somehow change the obesity problem is rather silly.
    well, they'll cost more so you may eat less.

    it also encourages you to think about your food more, which I find encourages health.
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: More nutritious food part of government plan

    Quote Originally Posted by StandUpChuck View Post
    IMO that's exactly why Americans are getting so fat (with some exceptions of course). But gov't cannot change that.

    There will still be people with no interest in cooking at the end of the day, and it's easier to nuke a pre-made meal.

    There will still be people unwilling or unable to make breakfast for thier kids, so they let 'em bulk up with high sugar cereals (plus too many parents these days would rather be cool than be parents).

    There will always be people who would prefer a sloppy, greasy lunch at the drive through than making a sandwich in the morning and packing a lunch (which BTW is cheaper, but that doesn't seem to matter).

    These people aren't going to buy organic. They're not going to buy anything to make a meal from wholesome ingredients (organic or not). They're going to teach their kids how to microwave pre-made Kraft Mac n' Cheese rather than give 'em an apple.
    The government initiative is not being undertaken to help those who don't want to change, but to help those who do, as well as those who already support local, fresh goods. I agree with you, there will always be people who don't want to change and want to eat like crap. That's their choice and no one is telling them otherwise.

    But you never know... maybe by increasing the public profile of the fresh, local food markets (whether or not they are "organic"), it will catch on with some people who didn't know that much about them in the first place. Big ideals often start small.

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    Re: More nutritious food part of government plan

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    well, they'll cost more so you may eat less.
    Maybe in a robust ecomony, that might be on the table (but I still reject the notion that gov't needs to push stuff on people). But in today's economy, $.89 mac and cheese looks pretty good to many people.

    it also encourages you to think about your food more, which I find encourages health.
    First, that should be done at home, and second it's being done in the schools ad nauseum.
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