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Water not recognized as a human right

Jerry said:
What is this nonsense?

No no, if my kid and I are out on a boat in the ocean, and I decide that my kid is inconvenient and so kick him off, and he looses his access to air when he goes under water, it's not my fault he drowned.

His relationship to me and my boat was parasitic anyway, and since it's my boat, it's my choice.

Honestly, Tucker, I thought you were Pro-Choice. I guess I was wrong.
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An abortion can be seen as assuring the fetus has access to air. It's not the mother's fault if the fetus doesn't have the ability to survive outside the womb and utilize that air. Think of her blood vessels just as you would think of a water pipe going into a house in my example.

The kid has a right to access air, but they don't have the right to have it BROUGHT to them. ;)


P.S. Your kid doesn't have a right to access the boat. So by kicking him out of it, you aren't denying him access to air, you're denying him access to the boat, so the comparison only strengthens my point.

Now, if you held his head under water......
 
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TheNextEra said:
None of which refutes what I said, EPIC fail on your part.
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Refute? :lamo You dropped your dick in the dirt when you said:

"Someone the is pregnant cannot hand off the kid to someone else."

You might want to pick it up out of the dirt now, and quietly sneak away...
 
GottaHurt said:
Refute? :lamo You dropped your dick in the dirt when you said:

"Someone the is pregnant cannot hand off the kid to someone else."

You might want to pick it up out of the dirt now, and quietly sneak away...
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Boy you sure have an interest in my Dick, sorry I don't swing that one. But hey, don't feel bad, there is nothing wrong with you being gay.

When you feel like actually refuting something instead of showing interest in my dick (really I'm flattered), let me know.
 
Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
How is water a "right"? :
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You might want to look up water rights:
Water Right in water law refers to the right of a user to use water from a water source, e.g., a river, stream, pond or source of groundwater. In areas with plentiful water and few users, such systems are generally not complicated or contentious. In other areas, especially arid areas where irrigation is practiced, such systems are often the source of conflict, both legal and physical. Some systems treat surface water and ground water in the same manner, while others use different principles for each.

In the United States, there are two divergent systems for determining water rights. Riparian water rights (derived from English common law) are common in the east and prior appropriation water rights (developed in Colorado and California) are common in the west. Each state has its own variations on these basic principles, as informed by custom, culture, geography, legislation and case law. California law, for example, includes elements of both systems. In general, a water right is established by obtaining an authorization from the state in the form of a water right permit. A legal right is formally consummated, or perfected, by exercising the water right permit and using the water for a beneficial purpose.

Water right - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Reverend_Hellh0und said:
:lol: that is not in context with the argument here.
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Oh BS if it is not. Quite obviously as I proved there is a right to water the question is to what degree. So now that it is a established there is a right to water recognized by law what do you have to say?
 
winston53660 said:
How so?.....
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"Water Rights" as you posted deal with people havng the ability to access publuc water sources.

"Water rights as a human right" implies that everyone has a basic, natural right to water, and that to deny them access to same violates said right. This includes pivately owned sources of water or any other souce not considered public -- and so, if you do not have any water, you have a right to mine. This is in opposition to water rights in the context of property rights.

It ALSO implies some degree of governmental responsibility to supply people with the water necessary to exercise that right, including those people that cannot otherwise afford it.

Water is a necessity.
That it is a necessity in no way means you have the right to expect someone to give it to you.
 
Goobieman said:
"Water Rights" as you posted deal with people havng the ability to access publuc water sources.

"Water rights as a human right" implies that everyone has a basic, natural right to water, and that to deny them access to same violates said right. .
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You are contradicting yourself here. If the law denies people access to a river. stream body of water you might have an argument. As the law stands now the law does recognize people's right to access a stream, river or body of water. IOW people do have a right to water.
 
winston53660 said:
You are contradicting yourself here. If the law denies people access to a river. stream body of water you might have an argument. As the law stands now the law does recognize people's right to access a stream, river or body of water. IOW people do have a right to water.
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Those are public water sources. Read what I said.
I made the distinction between the two concepts, quite clearly, and without contradiction.
 
TheNextEra said:
Boy you sure have an interest in my Dick, sorry I don't swing that one. But hey, don't feel bad, there is nothing wrong with you being gay.

When you feel like actually refuting something instead of showing interest in my dick (really I'm flattered), let me know.
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It's called a metaphor. I didn't want to use such a big word on you seeing how you're still struggling with the crayons.
 
winston53660 said:
Oh BS if it is not. Quite obviously as I proved there is a right to water the question is to what degree. So now that it is a established there is a right to water recognized by law what do you have to say?
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There is no right to water in the sense of inalienable rights.


sorry. you tried to expand it into a common property law matter.


answer this question:


If one lives where there is not enough water. How does one exercise thier "right" to water?
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Lets not be obtuse.


droughts cause crops to die, not enough water, and all sorts of issues.


How will you force the rain gods to give you your water you have a "right" to?
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Talk about being obtuse. Pot thy name is kettle.
 
winston53660 said:
Aheemmm all bodies of water are public by law, hence water right laws.
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No, not all.

My pond isn't. The lake that my grandfather owned isnt.

That, and the OTHER distinctions I made, create a clear difference in the two rights.
 
Bottled water is not a commodity? It is FACT that the world is running out of drinking water as the population continues to explode. War for water is more likely than not in the future.
"Hell no, we won't go, we won't kill for H2O" (say it again).:roll:
 
Water should be a right, for the simple reason that if you don't have it, you die. I agree with people being charged utility bills for having the water diverted from their homes, but if there is nothing to protect people from corporations sucking up lakes and streams to sell to overseas markets, or polluting lakes and streams to the point that they are not drinkable, then water will become more scarce within our lifetimes.
 
Orius said:
Water should be a right, for the simple reason that if you don't have it, you die.
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Food too, yes?
If you cannot get your own, should taxpayers provide it to you?
 
Goobieman said:
Food too, yes?
If you cannot get your own, should taxpayers provide it to you?
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Don't forget shelter.

It's a tricky question. The right to life is our most fundamental right. Food, water, and shelter are all necessary to sustain life. I'd hesitate to call these needs rights because that seems to imply that people should be forced to provide these things to others. (so-called "positive rights")

The thing about water is it's a closed system. You drink your water, pee it out, it evaporates and re-enters the system. Some areas might dry up, but worst comes to worst, you could always move.

Furthermore, a company that's collecting water from a river has a vested interest in preserving that river.

I think one of our biggest problems is that we're so resistant to change. Rivers dry up, fields go fallow, houses get destroyed, species go extinct, the climate changes. This is life. We should be willing to help each other in times of need, but by no means should we be forced by the state.
 
BulletWounD said:
You drink your water, pee it out, it evaporates and re-enters the system.
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Did you know that you can safely drink your own pee to stay hydrated?

I thought pee was poisonous. But Bear Grylls demonstrated this as a desert survival technique on "Man vs. Wild."

YouTube Bear Grylls Drinks His Pee

You can drink your pee. Who knew!?!

:confused:
 
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