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    Re: Water not recognized as a human right

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    People own houses.

    Who owns water?
    Not everyone owns a house.

    Whoever owns the land, most places you can have a well drilled and all you will have to supply is electricity.
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    Re: Water not recognized as a human right

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Not everyone owns a house.

    Whoever owns the land, most places you can have a well drilled and all you will have to supply is electricity.
    Who owns water?

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    Re: Water not recognized as a human right

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Who owns water?
    Whoever owns the land were the water is present owns the water.

    Or you could always catch it from rain and snow.
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    Re: Water not recognized as a human right

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    People can live for up to 4 weeks without food and can sustain themselves if they have clean water to drink and use for crops and livestock.
    Okay, 4 weeks instead of 3. How does any of that change the point?

    I suggest you watch the documentary called "Flow."
    I already read this. It didn't convince me, so I doubt some documentary will.
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    Re: Water not recognized as a human right

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Who owns water?
    It's called mineral rights I believe, in order to mine or open a well you have to own the rights to a land and it's rights to extract it's minerals. This may just be for oil, but I am sure there are corresponding things just as for water. Since most water in US comes from wells, it would be done mostly through these means.

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    Re: Water not recognized as a human right

    Quote Originally Posted by thabigred View Post
    It's called mineral rights I believe, in order to mine or open a well you have to own the rights to a land and it's rights to extract it's minerals. This may just be for oil, but I am sure there are corresponding things just as for water. Since most water in US comes from wells, it would be done mostly through these means.
    Not making fun of them but the Canadian government pull a fast one on land owners and decided to sell their mineral rights online without informing the land owners that they didn't own them anymore.
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    Re: Water not recognized as a human right

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Not making fun of them but the Canadian government pull a fast one on land owners and decided to sell their mineral rights online without informing the land owners that they didn't own them anymore.
    Yeah they did. They are also allowing ponds and lakes in certain provinces to be used exclusively by industry, since those industries pollute them fecklessly. If your well water is connected to those sources, then you technically don't own the water, but only the actual well because it's on your property. It's just completely ridiculous.

    If your property's water table is shared by property owned by a corporation that is bottling water, technically that water is not "yours" anymore. It's theirs. This is the problem facing North America right now. Because water doesn't have a fixed location, no one person can fight against its removal from another site.

    I think shared use clauses are taking a back seat to greed.

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    Re: Water not recognized as a human right

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    Yeah they did. They are also allowing ponds and lakes in certain provinces to be used exclusively by industry, since those industries pollute them fecklessly. If your well water is connected to those sources, then you technically don't own the water, but only the actual well because it's on your property. It's just completely ridiculous.

    If your property's water table is shared by property owned by a corporation that is bottling water, technically that water is not "yours" anymore. It's theirs. This is the problem facing North America right now. Because water doesn't have a fixed location, no one person can fight against its removal from another site.

    I think shared use clauses are taking a back seat to greed.
    I think it was ultimately the greed of the government.

    I read a story about a homeless guy that lived next door to some small family land owner and one day he just showed up on their property marking it and digging it up and there was nothing they could do.

    (Edit: Whats really funny though is that someone bought the PM's mineral rights under that too. Freakin hilarious.)
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    Re: Water not recognized as a human right

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Not making fun of them but the Canadian government pull a fast one on land owners and decided to sell their mineral rights online without informing the land owners that they didn't own them anymore.
    My grandma made 750,000 dollars recently pertaining to mineral rights.

    My family used to own a farm in Idaho in the 70's and later moved to Florida, she was recently looking to sell the farm and found out the oil companies were directional drilling from neighbors land into ours to get the oil. She threatened lawsuit and she settled out of court selling mineral rights for 750,000.

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    Re: Water not recognized as a human right

    Quote Originally Posted by thabigred View Post
    My grandma made 750,000 dollars recently pertaining to mineral rights.

    My family used to own a farm in Idaho in the 70's and later moved to Florida, she was recently looking to sell the farm and found out the oil companies were directional drilling from neighbors land into ours to get the oil. She threatened lawsuit and she settled out of court selling mineral rights for 750,000.
    Probably could of got a lot more depending on which side of the mountains the land was on.

    Western Idaho is big money right now.
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