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    Re: UK Cleric: All homosexuals should be stoned to death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    This is the same guy who led the protest against the British soldiers recently. I'm all for free speech just so long as it doesn't call upon others to commit acts of violence. I hope MI6 is watching this guy and his hangers on very carefully.
    In the US I am not sure anything would happen to him since we do not have hate speech laws(it contradicts the whole free speech thing to have hate speech laws) , in Europe where they do not value free speech he might be sentenced to life in prison for what he has said.
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    Re: UK Cleric: All homosexuals should be stoned to death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    According to my sources..
    You have good sources Tashah, and forgive me the unusual compliment.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    In the US I am not sure anything would happen to him since we do not have hate speech laws(it contradicts the whole free speech thing to have hate speech laws) , in Europe where they do not value free speech he might be sentenced to life in prison for what he has said.
    Well for a start he hasn't been arrested and isn't likely to be until he calls for death on British troops or British Jews. He's been very careful so far but as I said previously - two of the groups he set up have been disbanded or banned as terrorist groups.

    Better to keep watch and see who he draws to him than arrest him and they go underground.

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    Re: UK Cleric: All homosexuals should be stoned to death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    You have good sources Tashah, and forgive me the unusual compliment.



    Well for a start he hasn't been arrested and isn't likely to be until he calls for death on British troops or British Jews. He's been very careful so far but as I said previously - two of the groups he set up have been disbanded or banned as terrorist groups.

    Better to keep watch and see who he draws to him than arrest him and they go underground.


    Perhaps ... somebody should notify his terrorist ass that if anybody gets stoned to death ... he gets the same.

    That should tighten his terrorist sphencter!

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    Re: UK Cleric: All homosexuals should be stoned to death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    This is the same guy who led the protest against the British soldiers recently. I'm all for free speech just so long as it doesn't call upon others to commit acts of violence. I hope MI6 is watching this guy and his hangers on very carefully.
    Freedom of speech and then there is hate speech.

    Why are we not jailing him??
    If he wishes to say whatever he wants without thought, go to US where they protect it but inside UK we have hate speech laws which should prevent these types of incidents.


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    Re: UK Cleric: All homosexuals should be stoned to death.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    In the US I am not sure anything would happen to him since we do not have hate speech laws(it contradicts the whole free speech thing to have hate speech laws) , in Europe where they do not value free speech he might be sentenced to life in prison for what he has said.
    I understand that, however, it is against the law to call ones followers to violence, that's not hate speech that's incitement to violence.

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    Re: UK Cleric: All homosexuals should be stoned to death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Well yeah but it's not the same thing as saying 'Stone homosexuals'. One is by God. The other by people. Like I said. The comparisons fail. Westborough hides behind the whole 'God is powerful' shtick. So they can't be touched. Saying God will strike unrepentant homosexuals down is perfectly within Christian dogma. They do not hide the fact that if you don't live a Christian life you don't get to go to heaven. That's COMPLETELY different then actively telling people that Muslim men & women should stone homosexuals to death. I'd agree a lot more if we were talking about Jerry Falwell who did incite hate against homosexuals by telling people they were responsible for 9/11(**** his apology. Nobody says something like that without meaning it).
    In the U.S. it's called the Brandenburg test which says that direct incitement to violence is not protected speech.

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    Re: UK Cleric: All homosexuals should be stoned to death.

    This is the same guy who led the protest against the British soldiers recently. I'm all for free speech just so long as it doesn't call upon others to commit acts of violence. I hope MI6 is watching this guy and his hangers on very carefully.
    Sniper with 100 magnification on a tall building top two streets away from his house with a clear view of his front door. He arrives from work, silencer screwed on, trigger pressed. "Ping", bullet travels at 3000 feet per second, penetrating the back of his skull and lodging into his brain, causing ultimate death and brain shock which causes it to inflate with tumours to stop blood loss despite it causing the brain to give up and die. He falls to the floor, sniper back into the titanium cased holder with silencer unscrewed, and walk away like nothing ever happened.

    Thats how the KGB would have dealt it
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