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    Bill in Texas would allow creationists to grant Masters of Science degrees

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    Re: Bill in Texas would allow creationists to grant Masters of Science degrees

    Based on what's actually happening, I would have thought this was something that most people in TX would get behind. The religion issue is incidental to the larger point:

    If a private college doesn't receive funds from any governmental organization, should they have to be held to any standards or requirements when they award degrees? No, one Texan lawmaker is insisting.

    Texas State Representative Leo Berman has proposed House Bill 2800, which would exempt any private non-profit institution that requires students to complete “substantive course work” from having to acquire a certificate of authority from the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board(THECB). “If you don’t take any federal funds, if you don’t take any state funds, you can do a lot more than some business that does take state funding or federal funding,” Berman says. “Why should you be regulated if you don’t take any state or federal funding?”
    Sounds like this is more of an argument over government involvement in private business than it is about religious beliefs.
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    Re: Bill in Texas would allow creationists to grant Masters of Science degrees

    If they want to offer science degrees to those who stuy creationism, I say let them. The government shouldn't interfere if it isn't funding those institutions. It will be blatantly obvious when one of those "graduates" goes to apply for a job that they came from a pseudoscientific institution, and that they don't have the same credentials as those who studied real science.

    Unless of course they apply for a job at some kind of creationism institution, in which case they'll be in a shoe in for all the radicals that think the education system has justified their beliefs.

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    Re: Bill in Texas would allow creationists to grant Masters of Science degrees

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    If they want to offer science degrees to those who stuy creationism, I say let them. The government shouldn't interfere if it isn't funding those institutions. It will be blatantly obvious when one of those "graduates" goes to apply for a job that they came from a pseudoscientific institution, and that they don't have the same credentials as those who studied real science.

    Unless of course they apply for a job at some kind of creationism institution, in which case they'll be in a shoe in for all the radicals that think the education system has justified their beliefs.
    The whole point is that accreditation is the standard, and to grant it for an institution that lacks the merit cheapens the value of those who went to a proper university in Texas.

    This should be opposed because it gives credibility to the credulous.
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    Re: Bill in Texas would allow creationists to grant Masters of Science degrees

    Creationism is not science; only speculation
    Evolution is barely science; mainly speculation
    Big Bang Theory is not science; it's speculation
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    Re: Bill in Texas would allow creationists to grant Masters of Science degrees

    My question is why are they wanting to make a degree with an emphasis in creationism, when they already have accredited degrees for a Bachelor of Arts in theology?

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    Re: Bill in Texas would allow creationists to grant Masters of Science degrees

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    My question is why are they wanting to make a degree with an emphasis in creationism, when they already have accredited degrees for a Bachelor of Arts in theology?
    To piss liberals off.
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    Re: Bill in Texas would allow creationists to grant Masters of Science degrees

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    To piss liberals off.
    It doesn't piss me off in the least, since I am not from Texas and my lawmakers aren't wasting time for this.

    If it gets passed it will simply be yet another Bachelor of Arts degree.

    As I said earlier, the degree would not solely be on creationism, but other pre-requisites that must be followed as well. No biggy to me, I just don't see the reason to waste time on it is all when there is already an accredited theology degree program.

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    Re: Bill in Texas would allow creationists to grant Masters of Science degrees

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    To piss liberals off.
    It must seriously be their version of ethnic and woman studies.

    That degree along with those aren't worth the paper they are written on.
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    Re: Bill in Texas would allow creationists to grant Masters of Science degrees

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    That degree along with those aren't worth the paper they are written on.
    Actually that isn't all true either. There are some jobs, especially federal jobs, that have a pre-requisite of having a minimum of a bachelors degree or a certain amount of experience in the field.

    Many times those with degrees (no matter how absurd) as long as they are an accredited degree from an accredited college that person would get the job over someone who doesn't have one and doesn't have that certain amount of years experience.

    I'll admit though that with the economy going the way it is and with layoffs, this will most likely change but in the past that is how it has been.

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