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    Re: Bill in Texas would allow creationists to grant Masters of Science degrees

    Thinking about it, I would argue that there are far more scientific fields in which Creationist beliefs are not a practical impediment than fields in which they are. Anthropology and primatology seem to be poor fits, and Young Earthers are probably not good for astronomy or geology... but I've never even heard of a college-educated Creationist arguing against the existence of microevolution, much less the principles of the scientific method.

    This is much less of a big deal than people are making it out to be.

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    Re: Bill in Texas would allow creationists to grant Masters of Science degrees

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Actually that isn't all true either. There are some jobs, especially federal jobs, that have a pre-requisite of having a minimum of a bachelors degree or a certain amount of experience in the field.

    Many times those with degrees (no matter how absurd) as long as they are an accredited degree from an accredited college that person would get the job over someone who doesn't have one and doesn't have that certain amount of years experience.

    I'll admit though that with the economy going the way it is and with layoffs, this will most likely change but in the past that is how it has been.
    I agree that there are some limited jobs available for those degrees but for how many institutions that offer it, its really annoying.

    To each his/her own if they want to waste their college time.
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    Re: Bill in Texas would allow creationists to grant Masters of Science degrees

    I can tell you one thing for certain, no oil or gas company in Texas is going to hire scientists who believe that our sedimentary layers were laid down in the great flood less than 6,000 years ago.

    Though I imagine the Biblical Creation Theme Parks will be delighted to have these esteemed graduates working on their displays and shows.




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    Re: Bill in Texas would allow creationists to grant Masters of Science degrees

    "Bill in Texas would allow creationists to grant Masters of Science degrees"




    I really don't care what Bill is doing in Texas.


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    Re: Bill in Texas would allow creationists to grant Masters of Science degrees

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    I can tell you one thing for certain, no oil or gas company in Texas is going to hire scientists who believe that our sedimentary layers were laid down in the great flood less than 6,000 years ago.
    Agreed. Last I heard, many geologists hired had some evolution background as it helps them find the specific areas that the organisms lived in that got turned into hydrocarbons. I know for a fact that Chevron's explorer drilling ships specifically look for specific diatoms in specific geological eras in the core samples they take from the seafloor. And all of these geological eras are well beyond the YEC time frame.

    YECs tend not to understand the contradiction between their use of hydrocarbons to power their lives and the method of discovery that invalidates their belief system. As I've always said, YECs are living lies everyday.
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    Re: Bill in Texas would allow creationists to grant Masters of Science degrees

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Sounds like this is more of an argument over government involvement in private business than it is about religious beliefs.
    Yes and no. If the Texas Education organization is forced to certify what amounts to a diploma mill then it essentially renders that overall certification worthless. While it would be obvious to many that the fake science I mean Creationist 'science' is worthless, it does open the door for other diploma mills to operate rendering actual graduate degrees on par with a piece of paper you get for sending a check.
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    Re: Bill in Texas would allow creationists to grant Masters of Science degrees

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Yes and no. If the Texas Education organization is forced to certify what amounts to a diploma mill then it essentially renders that overall certification worthless. While it would be obvious to many that the fake science I mean Creationist 'science' is worthless, it does open the door for other diploma mills to operate rendering actual graduate degrees on par with a piece of paper you get for sending a check.
    And the next thing you know, the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster will also be allowed to issue MS degrees, granted of course, by his noodly appendage.
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    Re: Bill in Texas would allow creationists to grant Masters of Science degrees

    Why not get a degree in Astrology while your at it?
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    Re: Bill in Texas would allow creationists to grant Masters of Science degrees

    *hangs head in shame*

    I'm so glad I went to school in New York instead of here.

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    Re: Bill in Texas would allow creationists to grant Masters of Science degrees

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    If they want to offer science degrees to those who stuy creationism, I say let them. The government shouldn't interfere if it isn't funding those institutions. It will be blatantly obvious when one of those "graduates" goes to apply for a job that they came from a pseudoscientific institution, and that they don't have the same credentials as those who studied real science.

    Unless of course they apply for a job at some kind of creationism institution, in which case they'll be in a shoe in for all the radicals that think the education system has justified their beliefs.
    Fine, but they should loose their accreditation. If you're gonna hand out bogus degrees, you shouldn't be an accredited university.

    As for the Flying Spaghetti Monster thing....could you imagine how many people, even those who just passed and supported this bill, would be pissed off...ranting and raving pissed off if something like that happened. It could prove very entertaining.
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