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    Pope condemns sexual violence against women

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    This former Portuguese colony is mainly Catholic and Benedict lamented what he called strains on the traditional African family.

    "Particularly disturbing is the crushing yoke of discrimination that women and girls so often endure, not to mention the unspeakable practice of sexual violence and exploitation which causes such humiliation and trauma," Benedict told an audience of government leaders and foreign diplomats in the late afternoon.
    Of course, the Anti-Catholics will spin this silly, but it is entirely consistent with what I have said on other threads regarding the empowerment of women and the necessity to give women more ability to make their own decisions - including in the sexual realm.
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    Re: Pope condemns sexual violence against women

    The silence from the anti-Catholic bigots, who are flooding their own anti-Catholic threads but ignore a thread where even they can only but admit the Pope is right, is deafening.
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    Re: Pope condemns sexual violence against women

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    The silence from the anti-Catholic bigots, who are flooding their own anti-Catholic threads but ignore a thread where even they can only but admit the Pope is right, is deafening.
    hey, even GWB got SOME things right.....
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    Re: Pope condemns sexual violence against women

    Well it is good to know that the pope is against violence aimed at women, and he uses his status to speak about it. However, that hardly excuses his other failures. The pope does plenty of good in the world, but that doesn't mean I won't criticize him when he makes harmful statements about condom use in Africa that will get people killed.

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    Re: Pope condemns sexual violence against women

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Well it is good to know that the pope is against violence aimed at women, and he uses his status to speak about it. However, that hardly excuses his other failures. The pope does plenty of good in the world, but that doesn't mean I won't criticize him when he makes harmful statements about condom use in Africa that will get people killed.
    Yeah? How about his statements about keeping your pants zipped up outside of a committed marital relationship, which will save people's lives?
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    Re: Pope condemns sexual violence against women

    How about his statements about keeping your pants zipped up outside of a committed marital relationship, which will save people's lives?
    If the pope wants promote abstinence before marriage, I have no issue with it. It probably will have little effect, but won't cause any harm either. However, attacking the use of condoms is my point of contention. Telling people that condoms will make the AIDS problem worse is a flat out lie that will get people killed.

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    Re: Pope condemns sexual violence against women

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    The silence from the anti-Catholic bigots, who are flooding their own anti-Catholic threads but ignore a thread where even they can only but admit the Pope is right, is deafening.
    Perhaps because this is about as newsworthy as "BREAKING: Bird Reappears for Spring"?
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    Re: Pope condemns sexual violence against women

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    If the pope wants promote abstinence before marriage, I have no issue with it. It probably will have little effect, but won't cause any harm either. However, attacking the use of condoms is my point of contention. Telling people that condoms will make the AIDS problem worse is a flat out lie that will get people killed.
    It's not a matter of "wants to;" it's a matter of "does."

    He says that condoms make the problem worse because they give a false sense of invulnerability and work against curbing the activity which spreads HIV.
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    Re: Pope condemns sexual violence against women

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    If the pope wants promote abstinence before marriage, I have no issue with it. It probably will have little effect, but won't cause any harm either. However, attacking the use of condoms is my point of contention. Telling people that condoms will make the AIDS problem worse is a flat out lie that will get people killed.
    As I noted in the other thread, he was obviously speaking in larger terms. He's not saying that condoms will spread AIDS in the way you're insinuating, he's saying that the social and sexual practices that come about as a result of the availability/use of condoms contributes to the spread of AIDS.

    If you want to disagree with that, that's fine, but stop oversimplifying and misconstruing the argument.
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    Re: Pope condemns sexual violence against women

    He says that condoms make the problem worse because they give a false sense of invulnerability and work against curbing the activity which spreads HIV.
    There is absolutely no evidence of that, and quite a bit of evidence to the contrary. The pope is putting his religious beliefs before the facts and public health. His actions are causing harm and he should take flak for them.

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