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    Re: Pope condemns sexual violence against women

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    This is laughable. Large segments of the Catholic faith openly opposed womens suffrage in the 19th century. Just because 1 priest supported the right for women to vote means NOTHING.
    Did you read what he said?


    Vatican city TODAY is one of the few last remaining places where women STILL CANNOT VOTE TODAY!!!!
    Regular men can't either--it's only cardinals. nice try with half the info.

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    Re: Pope condemns sexual violence against women

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    And by the church you mean a collection of fallible men.
    Through the guidence of the Holy Spirit. They did a good job - unlike Martin Luther who took out parts of the Holy Scriptures on a whim because they didn't fit with his theological opinions.
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    Re: Pope condemns sexual violence against women

    Quote Originally Posted by Felicity View Post
    The sin was original sin, and the result is part of the struggle that is people not treating others with the respect they are due, and people not being treated with respect. In other words (as JPII thoroughly explains in his letter): Both man and woman are wounded by sin and one of the wounds to both is misogyny--it harms BOTH the misogynist, an those on the receiving end.
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    In one of his Discourses Paul VI said: "Within Christianity, more than in any other religion, and since its very beginning, women have had a special dignity, of which the New Testament shows us many important aspects...; it is evident that women are meant to form part of the living and working structure of Christianity in so prominent a manner that perhaps not all their potentialities have yet been made clear"
    I think that there are women who feel that the fact they can't be Pope (which means "Father") offends their dignity. God isn't telling women this, men are.
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    Re: Pope condemns sexual violence against women

    Quote Originally Posted by Felicity View Post
    Yep. It's a place of supreme dignity and value--no less important than that of man.
    The water coming out of the "colored" water fountains is just as wet.
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    Re: Pope condemns sexual violence against women

    Quote Originally Posted by Felicity View Post
    Name calling, my dear. You call the Church hateful and misogynistic. I am part of that Church. Do you consider me a "woman hater?"
    You are a woman. You aren't part of the policy making process of the Church.
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    Re: Pope condemns sexual violence against women

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    A little more than Cherry Picking. That was Martin Luther, NOT the Catholic Church. The Church went through an extended process of determining which books made the cut and which did not.
    It is curious how the Apocrypha has stories about women disproportionately to the current bible.
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    Re: Pope condemns sexual violence against women

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    It is curious how the Apocrypha has stories about women disproportionately to the current bible.
    The "Apocrypha" are in the Catholic Bible--NOT in the Protestant version.

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    Re: Pope condemns sexual violence against women

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    From your source:



    I think that there are women who feel that the fact they can't be Pope (which means "Father") offends their dignity. God isn't telling women this, men are.
    I guess I don't get your point.

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    Re: Pope condemns sexual violence against women

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    You are a woman. You aren't part of the policy making process of the Church.
    I'm apparently a stooge.

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    Re: Pope condemns sexual violence against women

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    It is curious how the Apocrypha has stories about women disproportionately to the current bible.
    Define disproportionately? There are MANY stories of incredibly faithful and strong women in the Bible.

    While there is nothing that can be said to be "THE Apocrypha", it doesn't mean that such books are not valuable to the Faith. Many ARE. However, there are various reasons why such books are not in the canon.
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