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    Re: Pope condemns sexual violence against women

    Quote Originally Posted by Felicity View Post

    Is a man "discriminated against" because he can't get pregnant? It's just not part of the nature of what pregnancy is, or what a man is. Likewise, women are not discriminated against because they can't be a priest. Jesus was a man--He is the highpriest--only men are able to be priests by their nature.

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    You're seriously going to compare biological truths with flippant prejudice? A man can't birth a baby but a woman most certainly can preside over a church. Outside the discriminatory Catholic Church they do so all the time.

    If we went by what jobs were held historically by men as evidence of what jobs are "manly" in nature and thus off limits to women we women wouldn't be allowed to do much of anything.

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    Re: Pope condemns sexual violence against women

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    You're seriously going to compare biological truths with flippant prejudice? A man can't birth a baby but a woman most certainly can preside over a church. Outside the discriminatory Catholic Church they do so all the time.

    If we went by what jobs were held historically by men as evidence of what jobs are "manly" in nature and thus off limits to women we women wouldn't be allowed to do much of anything.
    People are body and soul--inseparable. Identity is the same. No man can be "mother" either BECAUSE of his gender. By definition, his gender influences the FACT that he can't hold that title.

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    Re: Pope condemns sexual violence against women

    Quote Originally Posted by Felicity View Post
    People are body and soul--inseparable. Identity is the same. No man can be "mother" either BECAUSE of his gender. By definition, his gender influences the FACT that he can't hold that title.
    Why would a soul have a gender?

    Do souls reproduce?
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    Re: Pope condemns sexual violence against women

    Quote Originally Posted by Felicity View Post
    People are body and soul--inseparable. Identity is the same. No man can be "mother" either BECAUSE of his gender. By definition, his gender influences the FACT that he can't hold that title.
    There's no reason "mothers" can't be in charge of teaching and preaching in houses of God. She is as equipped as "father" is to handle the task. As I've said females have been heads and leaders in churches outside the Catholic faith with great success.

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    Re: Pope condemns sexual violence against women

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Why would a soul have a gender?
    Why wouldn't it?

    Do souls reproduce?
    Yeah--when two bodies and souls have sex, often the result is another body and soul. It's called making a baby.

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    Re: Pope condemns sexual violence against women

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    There's no reason "mothers" can't be in charge of teaching and preaching in houses of God. She is as equipped as "father" is to handle the task. As I've said females have been heads and leaders in churches outside the Catholic faith with great success.
    Except God is a "Father"--and Jesus was a man and Catholics believe God does things a certain way on purpose.

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    Re: Pope condemns sexual violence against women

    Quote Originally Posted by Felicity View Post
    Except God is a "Father"--and Jesus was a man and Catholics believe God does things a certain way on purpose.
    There's no proof God has a penis. We're supposedly all God's children with no apparent mother in sight. Clearly God is beyond gender and his creations require no shlong.

    Still though - even if God does have a penis the only way he would rule that only men could teach in his house was if he was a discriminatory dick in which case, screw em.

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    Re: Pope condemns sexual violence against women

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    There's no proof God has a penis. We're supposedly all God's children with no apparent mother in sight. Clearly God is beyond gender and his creations require no shlong.

    Still though - even if God does have a penis the only way he would rule that only men could teach in his house was if he was a discriminatory dick in which case, screw em.
    Male does not mean penis--gender is soul deep.

    And your "screw God" shtick is not "shocking"--it's actually what those with "religion issues" do when they can't maintain civil discourse on a matter and want to alienate so that they don't have to keep defending their "emotional" reaction to philosophical discussion.

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    Re: Pope condemns sexual violence against women

    Quote Originally Posted by Felicity View Post
    Male does not mean penis--gender is soul deep.

    And your "screw God" shtick is not "shocking"--it's actually what those with "religion issues" do when they can't maintain civil discourse on a matter and want to alienate so that they don't have to keep defending their "emotional" reaction to philosophical discussion.
    I'm not being uncivil. If the premise is that God is my creator and yet men are created better in that for no rational reason and without explanation they rank higher in the house of God then obviously respect for God goes down whether I'm talking about god in the hypothetical or the actual being is standing right before me mocking my gender.

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    Re: Pope condemns sexual violence against women

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    I'm not being uncivil. If the premise is that God is my creator and yet men are created better in that for no rational reason and without explanation they rank higher in the house of God then obviously respect for God goes down whether I'm talking about god in the hypothetical or the actual being is standing right before me mocking my gender.
    Where does the Catholic Church say "men are better?" It doesn't--it says "men and women are different." We all have different natures and abilities--being able to do one thing that someone else cannot does not mean one is "better" than another. YOU are the one who views the priesthood as some "honor" that only men can achieve. Yeah--with all the attacks that priests get ...some "honor!" The priesthood is a service, if one views it as a status symbol--THAT'S a lousy priest.

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