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    Re: Pope condemns sexual violence against women

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Is fish a vegetable, dairy, fruit, or a grain?
    It's meat--fish meat. Big whoop. The act is an act of mortification--forgoing something that is a luxury. The reason we do it together as the body of Christ during Lent is for unity of practice to give glory to God. It is "nothing" in the grand scheme--like a child giving dandelion weeds to Mommy because he loves her.

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    Re: Pope condemns sexual violence against women

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post

    How come Jesus didn't have any female disciples?
    He did. None were Apostles, though. He had many women followers--Mary Magdalene among them.

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    Re: Pope condemns sexual violence against women

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    The point is rules change. Change happens incredibly slowly at Vatican level but it does happen. There are married priests under Vatican rule. I imagine eventually all priests will be able to marry. That will probably happen long before women are allowed to be ordained.
    Someday perhaps priest will be chosen from among men who marry--women never will be priests. It's a settled matter. JPII made it infallibly clear.


    Some things are disciplines and some things are doctrine. Discipline can change--doctrine, never.

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    Re: Pope condemns sexual violence against women

    Quote Originally Posted by Felicity View Post
    It's meat--fish meat. Big whoop. The act is an act of mortification--forgoing something that is a luxury. The reason we do it together as the body of Christ during Lent is for unity of practice to give glory to God. It is "nothing" in the grand scheme--like a child giving dandelion weeds to Mommy because he loves her.
    Really? I thought it was about sacrifice on the day that John 3:16 is talking about. I thought it was for penance.
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    Re: Pope condemns sexual violence against women

    Quote Originally Posted by Felicity View Post
    He did. None were Apostles, though. He had many women followers--Mary Magdalene among them.
    I meant apostles. My bad.
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    Re: Pope condemns sexual violence against women

    http://www.ewtn.com/library/DOCTRINE/MALEPRIE.TXT
    In May of 1994 John Paul II promulgated <Ordinatio Sacerdotalis>
    which declared definitely that the Catholic priesthood is reserved
    for males. That document nonetheless contained some language that
    was difficult to interpret. As a result, Cardinal Ratzinger made
    an official clarification (<Responsum ad Dubium>) in November of
    1995, making it quite clear that the Church has taught infallibly
    on this matter.

    Hence, the question of the priesthood in its relation to
    sexuality-a question usually posed more simply as "Why can there
    not be women priests?"-has now been answered in a definitive way.
    There is no longer any doubt that reserving Holy Orders to males
    is part of the deposit of faith.

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    Re: Pope condemns sexual violence against women

    Quote Originally Posted by Felicity View Post
    Someday perhaps priest will be chosen from among men who marry--women never will be priests. It's a settled matter. JPII made it infallibly clear.


    Some things are disciplines and some things are doctrine. Discipline can change--doctrine, never.
    JPII didn't make an infallible declaration.
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    Re: Pope condemns sexual violence against women

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Really? I thought it was about sacrifice on the day that John 3:16 is talking about. I thought it was for penance.
    It is about sacrifice and penance...and we do it together as one body, with Christ as our head. What aren't you understanding?

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    Re: Pope condemns sexual violence against women

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    JPII didn't make an infallible declaration.
    See above. He did.

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    Re: Pope condemns sexual violence against women

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post

    How come Jesus didn't have any female disciples?
    Mary Magdalene was called Apostola Apostolorum which means apostle to the apostles. There are early writings referring to her as an apostle. There's even an apocryphal Gospel of Mary.

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