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    Re: Obama sorry for disability remark

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    The thing that bothers me about PC social politics is that it glosses over what people are thinking about anyway, it just tries to prevent them from expressing it. For instance, clearly Obama talks that way when he's casually chatting with friends (he's probably worse than that, too), but the media wants to punish him for making a remark that most people in their lives have also made.

    Instead of reacting to the remark and trying to silence it, it's better to let it out so that people can have a dialogue about it. I'm so tired of the media defaming people. Journalism has gone out the window. It's all about sensationalism and ratings now.
    Journalism? It's a vehicle for electing Marxists, and it has been for decades.

    It's how you get esteemed "journalists" at CBS and the NYT foisting forged documents on the citizens in the dying moments of a Presidential election.

    If it hadn't been for the internet, they might have attained the intended damage and swung an election.

    It's how you get Newsweek trying to bury the story of the decade.

    It's how you get the NYT not allowing John McCain, Republican Party Nominee, to publish his own op-ed as he had, or a staffer had written it.

    Fineman: 'Mainstream Media Party' is over - Howard Fineman- msnbc.com

    Obama is the President, not a GI that just got back from Iraq or Afghanistan.
    He should at least behave Presidential.
    But, we have come to learn, it is a tough world for him to be in without his teleprompter. Even that isn't a guarantee he won't crank up the gaff-o-matic and thank himself.

    The guy has stacked up a pretty good set of gaffs in a short stint.
    I look forward to seeing him yibber and yabber away from his teleprompter.

    The difference between Obama and Bush is W muffed the words and created some of his own... with Obama it's not the words... it's usually the content.

    ... but it's not always the content...

    This is an all-world performance... and he has so many already that would have sunk a mere mortal... but this is the cream.
    YouTube - Obama Speech - Teleprompter Goes Out

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    Re: Obama sorry for disability remark

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    BBC NEWS | Americas | Obama sorry for disability remark

    US President Barack Obama has apologised for joking on a TV chat show that a poor bowling performance was "like the Special Olympics".

    Obama is the TRUE cripple here, but it isn`t a physical hadicap I`m talking about. This is clearly the stupidest human ever to set foot in the Whitehouse, and he`s the god damned president. My frustration has nothing to do with his ignorant remark about the special olympics, it is his uterly stupid attempts at keeping the average American in the dark about our scripted/choreographed end ....as a soveriegn nation, and his clumsiness in handleing the economy and UNfair trade issues. I gave him 100% support about 2 days before he took office..., he confirmed my earlier fears. We are in deep chit.

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    Re: Obama sorry for disability remark

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Except that it is not really that black and white. I don't really want to get into specifics on here, but have you ever seen how one way or another the system isn't quite allowing sections of the disabled class to move on with their own lives-should they wish to?
    Certainly. If your paycheck comes from them being dependent on services, it doesn't make a lot of sense to be too good at helping them become independent. The way I see it, this is the other side of the coin to the efforts to expand services and protect more and more "rights" that require additional services to enable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    The problem is that without those programs, I know first hand that they would have created a situation in which many useful people would be blocked off from reaching independence far too soon, all in the name of fiscal responsibility and self-dependence.
    Certainly. It isn't the social programs and assistance for the disabled that I object to. It's what I consider to be the backwards priorities of those programs and the lack of effective "triage", for lack of a better word.

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    Re: Obama sorry for disability remark

    The really sad thing is Obama thinks the average Joe is full on retarded compared to himself. I can only presume that's why he went on Leno to address the nation. Douche.

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    Re: Obama sorry for disability remark

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    I don't know what your problem is, but you can read and write and make an argument. If you're not a productive member of society, my guess would be that has more to do with the government thinking it's easier to buy you off than to try to find you real work. If you are a productive member of society, either holding a job or taking care of your family, then none of my ranting applies to you. You're disabled, but you're not useless, and I think the government ought to be interested in helping you be productive.

    I'm crippled and psychotic. As a result, I am severely underemployed-- but I won't qualify for any form of government assistance unless I become completely useless or begin to pose a danger to myself or others. Thing is, if I could afford my medications, I'd be less crippled and less psychotic and thus more productive at work. If I could go back to college, I might theoretically be able to enter a career field where being crippled and psychotic didn't interfere with my job functions.

    On the other hand, if I were crippled and psychotic and retarded, the government would pay for my medicine, pay for me to go to the local community college, and find me a job that didn't cause me to have nightmares and muscle spasms. Complete with a guy who gets paid eleven dollars an hour to watch me do my job and keep me from getting fired.

    So, I am a very strong proponent of government programs to help the disabled-- especially to rehabilitate them and help them function in the workplace and in society. I am just a little frustrated by the government's policy of providing the most help to the people who are guaranteed to show the least results.

    This is offtopic but there is no reason why you should not be able to go to college. Apply for pellgrants. There is help out here for you.

    What about SSI? Look into it.

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    Re: Obama sorry for disability remark

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    AFTER his presidency was long over.
    Dude....Reagan was 70 when he became president. 78 when he left. Do you really buy that he didn't have Alzheimer in some form during his presidency? Alzheimer doesn't just show up when you're like 85.

    Alzheimer's disease - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The first symptoms are often mistaken as related to ageing or stress.[5] Detailed neuropsychological testing can reveal mild cognitive difficulties up to eight years before a person fulfills the clinical criteria for diagnosis of AD.[20] These early symptoms can affect the most complex daily living activities.[21] The most noticeable deficit is memory loss, which shows up as difficulty in remembering recently learned facts and inability to acquire new information.[22][23] Subtle problems with the executive functions of attentiveness, planning, flexibility, and abstract thinking, or impairments in semantic memory (memory of meanings, and concept relationships), can also be symptomatic of the early stages of AD.[24][25] Apathy can be observed at this stage, and remains the most persistent neuropsychiatric symptom throughout the course of the disease.[26][27][28] The preclinical stage of the disease has also been termed mild cognitive impairment,[29] but there is still debate on whether this term corresponds to a different diagnostic entity by itself or just a first step of the disease.[30]
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    He gained national prominence by announcing in 1987 that Ronald Reagan had been suffering from diminished mental ability as early as 1980. He came to this conclusion by using the Gottschalk-Gleser scales, an internationally used diagnostic tool he helped develop for charting impairments in brain function, to measure speech patterns in Reagan's 1980 and 1984 presidential debates.

    Gottschalk coinvented software that uncovered a link between childhood attention deficit disorder and adult addiction to alcohol and drugs. And in 2004, at age 87, he published his latest book, World War II: Neuropsychiatric Casualties, Out of Sight, Out of Mind.
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    Re: Obama sorry for disability remark

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    The really sad thing is Obama thinks the average Joe is full on retarded compared to himself. I can only presume that's why he went on Leno to address the nation. Douche.
    Ummm the average Joe is full on retarded. Just look at Joe the Plumber. Using the word socialist like it's a topping for Domino's Pizza.
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    Re: Obama sorry for disability remark

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Ummm the average Joe is full on retarded. Just look at Joe the Plumber. Using the word socialist like it's a topping for Domino's Pizza.
    Still doesn't excuse the President from cheese.

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    Re: Obama sorry for disability remark

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Still doesn't excuse the President from cheese.
    Ummm dude. Seriously. It's not that big of a deal. If a few people blinked at Bush saying his administration wanted to hurt America. Even fewer will blink at Obama making fun of the same people we all make fun of. It's just not going to happen.
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    Re: Obama sorry for disability remark

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Ummm dude. Seriously. It's not that big of a deal. If a few people blinked at Bush saying his administration wanted to hurt America. Even fewer will blink at Obama making fun of the same people we all make fun of. It's just not going to happen.
    I don't give a rats arse about the disability joke. I'm offended that our sitting President used Leno as an "address of the nation" of sorts. I find it insulting that during a time of stress and woe he went for the interview he could fully control and the audience that doesn't know ****. I'm upset at the precedent it sets.

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